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Good afternoon, everybody. We do expect a full class and continue to have folks joining us here at the top of the hour, but I am going to start with some housekeeping rules before we jump into the

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Welcome to today's training and introduction to hydrocarbons. My name is Nicole Henderson. I am located in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and will be your moderator today for the class.

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This class was developed as an offspring product of the 2022 ITRC team on effective application of guidance document to hydrocarbons.

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The class is designed to provide a basic overview of hydrocarbon behavior in the subsurface and how to scientifically assess concerns arising from the release of petroleum products in the environment.

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It will highlight key issues that help identify and manage TPH, LMAPL, and PVI risks together.

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This course is based on three separate ITRC guidance documents that address the course content in detail.

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Please make sure you visit the ITRC website and our work to see these guidance documents.

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I will also post the links to these documents after I introduce the trainers.

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Please note that this is the first offering of the class. ITRC will host additional sessions of this class in 2025, including on January 30th.

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Registration for that class will open tomorrow.

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And we have had a very long wait list for today. So we will be moving everybody over to that and

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encouraging you to help us promote the January 30th for any colleagues that were trying to register at this late time

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Interstate technology and regulatory Council is a program of the Environmental Council of States.

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ITRC is a state-led organization composed of members from state agencies, federal government.

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private sector, academia, and community stakeholders.

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Our members participate in technical teams which produce tools, resources, and training courses like the one you are participating in today.

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If you would like to become an ITRC member and see our brand new 2025 teams, we encourage you to visit our website

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and explore joint ITRC at the top.

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An ITRC nor the US government warranty the material nor endorse any specific

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products.

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So in slide four, I am welcoming our trainers for the day, as well as some extra trainers that have joined us in the background to help answer your questions. So we do encourage you to continue to use Q&A pod throughout the training at any time you have a question.

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We have people here to help get through as many responses as we can.

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With that, I am going to hand this over to Tom Fox.

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accidentally change the slides on him.

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Okay.

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And we'll get started. So Tom, tell us a little bit about this course.

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All right. Well, let's see. With the rapid turnover that's occurring in our technical community.

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ITRC has created this webinar to help people adjust into their new job or maybe a position.

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Or maybe you just want a refresher we're not sure

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But today you'll receive a broad overview of the current science regarding petroleum assessment and cleanup.

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You may feel a little bit overwhelmed at the amount of information and the pace we'll be presenting today.

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But keep in mind that this webinar is being recorded.

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And it will be presented again throughout 2025. And the slides will be available in the Clue Insight.

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We have a lot of people with us today. And just to reiterate what Nicole said.

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You can type your questions into the chat so we can answer them either at the breaks or at the end of this presentation.

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So to begin, this training draws from the ITRC guidance that's listed.

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We're going to be covering petroleum vapor intrusion, also known as PVI.

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Light non-aqueous phase liquids, known as LNAP,

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total petroleum hydrocarbons known as TPH,

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But we also want you to be aware of the last offering

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which includes a guide to navigate the first three documents during a risk assessment process.

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And for further information, we really encourage you to visit ITER's website

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and view these documents.

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And I've already malfunctioned.

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All right.

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Where does this training apply?

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This training can be applied very broadly at any number and type of site.

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Some examples include your corner gas station, industrial plants.

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manufacturing facilities

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And even landfills and junkyards.

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very complicated sites may need to involve a team of people with various skills.

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So you may need to have a geologist, perhaps a chemist.

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or even an engineer to successfully complete a project.

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Next.

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So our training goals today are to give you an overview of the key issues and helping identify TPH,

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El Napple and pvi risks together.

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We'll be introducing what's contained in the ITRC guidance documents

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and help you highlight where they overlap.

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We'll be presenting some of the latest science to support best practices

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for the investigation, including conceptual site model development

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risk management and regulation development in your area

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And also be emphasizing the importance of biodegradation

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In risk management decision making.

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Our course outline today consists of three parts. I'll be covering the fundamentals of petroleum hydrocarbons.

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We'll be covering basic petroleum chemistry

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And also review how TPH, LNAPO, and PVI are related.

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In our second portion, we'll be working on building an integrated conceptual site model

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what is a CSM and what's its purpose?

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And when is the CSM complete?

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And finally, in our third section, we'll be identifying and managing risks from petroleum hydrocarbons

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Well, defining these risks based on acute

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saturation, composition, or aesthetic concerns.

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So let's get right into the fundamentals of petroleum hydrocarbons.

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To better understand the chemistry of petroleum products, we must first understand how to refine from crude oil.

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which is depicted in this animation.

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Here, crude oil is shown on the left.

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where it is superheated in a boiler

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and becomes vapor. This vapor is then sent through a distillation column.

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where the vapor turns back into liquid at various temperatures.

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this distillation process separates the crude oil into hydrocarbon mixtures by weight

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which is shown by the number of carbon atoms on the right side of this animation.

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compounds with only a few compounds with only a few carbon atoms

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are referred to as later end compounds

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like bottled gas or gasoline.

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And these are distilled at much lower temperatures

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than the middle distillates like kerosene and diesel fuel.

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Oils and tars will settle into the bottom of the distillation column

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And TPH analyses help measure petroleum hydrocarbons that are present

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In El Napple, zorb, dissolved in vapor phases.

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Although crude oil has been separated by weight.

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Each of the refined petroleum products is still a complex mixture of thousands of compounds.

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This chart shows the typical carbon ranges for several types of refined fuels and oils.

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You can see that gasoline has a range of 4 to 12 carbon atoms.

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Well, diesel fuel has a range of 8 to 24 carbon atoms.

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Heavier oils can range up to 20 to over 30 carbon atoms.

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Well, crude oil can span up to 40 carbon atoms.

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Once petroleum is released to the environment, we refer to the liquid product as LLAP.

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El Napple is specifically defined as a light, non-aqueous phase liquid

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that has a density less than water

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and is immiscible with water.

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This is typically associated with petroleum products, although other oils are also elm apples such as vegetable oil.

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Elmapple can become the source of TPH and PVI

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It can also be very difficult to assess and recover once it's released to the subsurface, as many of you know.

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El Napole itself contains more than 99% of the hydrocarbon source mass

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And it will often act as a long-term source of vapor

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groundwater and soil contamination.

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So let's talk a little bit about how and where LNAPL occurs.

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So on the left-hand side is an illustration of an LNAPLE release

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And during a petroleum release, L-Napple displaces the soil pores

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in the Vedo zone by overcoming the resistance to flow

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and displacing the air that's in the pores.

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And it does this through various poor connections, also known as poor throats.

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As the LNAPLE moves downward.

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encounters the capillary zone in groundwater in most cases

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And then it has to also displace water from the pores, which is a bit more difficult

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than simply moving air.

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The young apple buoyancy

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in the water limits downward movement

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An excess LNAPA will now travel sideways off to the right in this illustration

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creating a plume, but always leaving some behind, kind of like a snail's trail.

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Some elm apple dissolves to create a groundwater plume

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In some cases far enough away from the source mass, you'll have impacted groundwater

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with no elm apple visible.

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Now to the right side. Oh, I'm sorry. One thing I want to mention is it's really important to note that this is uh

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Not a fracture flow situation. This is a textbook illustration of most porous materials.

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We don't have time to get into fracture flow, I'm afraid.

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So on the right-hand side, let's talk about LNAP partition

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partitioning. El Napo exists in four phases in the environment. It'll exist as El Napple

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but also dissolve out his constituents absorb the soil surfaces

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dissolved in water and volatilized air now all that, as I've said is

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a very small percentage is shown as this yellow strip on the slide.

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As part of this bar graph.

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99% stays as El Napple and very little of the LNAPLE components transfer to other media.

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Some LNAPLE may reach groundwater, and if there is enough.

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become mobile and even migrate

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However, only some of this elm apple can be recovered.

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regarding recovery, keep in mind that oil companies have spent billions of dollars trying to recover liquid petroleum from the ground.

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And at most, only about one third of what's there can be recovered

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And in the environmental industry, I don't think we're going to do much better.

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most el napple becomes residual or stuck in the soil pores

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where it can become a long-term contamination source.

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This is why excavation is so useful.

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you're actually removing ln apple trapped in the soil pores.

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Each of these phases creates their own set of risks

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And we address those risks using different technologies or strategies that we'll be talking about later.

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So what is TPH?

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One indicator of ill and apple content in media, both soil, water, and vapor.

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is TPH. ITRC defines TPH as hydrocarbons only.

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which are compounds made up of hydrogen and carbon, can be joined into chains known as aliphatic hydrocarbons.

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Or rings known as aromatic hydrocarbons.

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Once TPH is in the environment, it can migrate from one media to another through partitioning.

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For example, TPH from a release area

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could dissolve into soil poor water

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and leached downward into groundwater.

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Once in groundwater, TPH volatilizes the soil vapor

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And it may emanate up through the unsaturated zone and intrude into buildings and indoor air.

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Therefore, it's really important to understand TPH source and migration pathways

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And when you're selecting the appropriate analytical methods and media for your site investigation, and very often these methods

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are dictated by the local regulatory agency.

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CSAT is the TPH saturation concentration that indicates the maximum LNAPL that may be present in soil, either in pores or fractures.

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CSAT will vary by both the fuel type and the soil type.

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Elmapple may or may not be present in the monitoring well.

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And we'll discuss LNAPO mobility and the concerns it can create a little later in this presentation.

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Now that we understand the universe of compounds present in refined products.

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How do we measure TPH in different environmental media?

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The answer lies in the TPH analytical method that is selected.

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I really want to stress this point.

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that the analytical method defines TPH

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And it provides an approximate concentration

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of the total hydrocarbons in each media.

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Ironically, TPH is not necessarily total

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It's not necessarily all from petroleum.

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And it's not necessarily all hydrocarbons.

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And we'll talk more on this later.

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What does petroleum vapor intrusion or PVI?

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Basically, PVI is the migration of hydrocarbon vapors from petroleum contaminants in the subsurface

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into overlying buildings or utilities

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which causes a potential public health concern.

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It's often a key risk driver at petroleum release sites

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driving environmental cleanup.

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It's strongly influenced by the source type.

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both the fuel and whether it's an LNAPLE or dissolve phases.

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And it also differs from chlorinated vapor intrusion.

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Petroleum vapors are highly susceptible to biodegradation.

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But they can also create certain acute risks such as explosion hazards.

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from the production of methane during biodegradation.

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Let's see, I believe.

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having trouble getting my slide to advance Nicole. Oh, there we go.

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And at this point, I want to hand it off to Matt Lavas, who's going to introduce you to

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building a conceptual site model

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Thanks and Matt. I'm pulling up a quick poll while you guys transition.

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Just to get a sense of our audience today.

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I will leave that open line.

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Let me know when you want me to go.

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You're all set.

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I just have a couple more people filling in the poll. I'm going to share the results, Matt.

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And then we'll let you get started.

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A lot of people coming in.

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All right. Thanks and welcome everyone. So the next few slides here.

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We'll talk about the conceptual site model, and it's arguably the most important element of any hydrocarbon assessment.

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in terms of

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really understanding what your risks are and then how to manage those risks.

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So a CSM is going to be used then to identify your potential sources for hydrocarbons, your pathways for how those hydrocarbons are moving in the subsurface, and then

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your receptors.

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for a current and unreasonably anticipated future site conditions so

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It's only when we have that linkage between the source pathway and receptor when we have a risk. But that CSM has to come away with

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that information has to be able to identify when those risks are present.

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It's also going to be used to define your LNAPL concerns, goals, and objectives. That gets into, okay.

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starting to understand if you do have a risk, how to manage that risk.

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So if we step back, the CSM is really around identifying risks and then how to manage those risks. So it's supporting some of the key decision making, whether it comes in as the site screening level.

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Whether it's telling us we need further data collection or how to manage those risks.

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So that's CSM. It's going to be presented primarily as text with some kind of supporting diagrams and they could be

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plan views could be cross sections, that sort of thing. And it's constantly updated as you collect new information. So you may start out with an initial CSM, but find you don't have the information

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available to answer all these questions around site screening. You need some more data.

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and more information. So you're going to keep updating that CSM as you go along to finally, again.

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answer some questions about how to manage any risks that are present and get yourself to closure.

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So…

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I was just jumping around a little. So here's a depiction of a general CSM or what might be contained in one where we've got an above ground storage tank here on the left side and AST where we've lost some

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Petroleum hydrocarbons into the subsurface and some of it has

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spilled out on the land surface. And what you're seeing here for that

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hydrocarbon.

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is some associated pathways. And we might have one that's associated here with a building type receptor where you've got inhalation.

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exposure. You may have exposure to the surface spill either directly from dermal contact or ingestion of those surface soils or inhalation of vapors from the surface soils.

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Someone might have a well present

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which represents another ingestion pathway.

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For drinking water. And then if that hydrocarbon has made its way into surface water.

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against someone who might come in contact with that surface water swimming, you've got ingestion, dermal inhalation.

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as well as ecological risk.

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So they're going to change depending on where that hydrocarbon is and what media is represented

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where that hydrocarbon is in which media.

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Now, what we've also superimposed here goes back to that earlier slide Tom was presenting here, showing you a little bit about where that hydrocarbon mass is going to be located. And if we start here.

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And this pie chart that's mainly black. So if we're in that area where El Napple is present, again, most of that hydrocarbon is going to be

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present within the LNAPA phase. Very little in the air, vapor, water, absorb phases.

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But if we step outside of where El Napple might be present in the subsurface, let's say we're in the Vedo zone or we're in groundwater.

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Well, then that hydrocarbon is going to be distributed primarily amongst the air, water, and sorb phases. If we're in the Vedo zone or just the water absorbed phases in the groundwater. And that distribution is going to change depending on

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what hydrocarbon we're looking at or what mixture of hydrocarbons were.

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we're looking at. Now, ITRC and its hydrocarbons

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training module has put together this handy checklist

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that helps one work their way through the development of a CSM. And so it has some steps in here.

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and references to resources within all of the various tech regs, LNAPLE, TPH, PVI, where you can find out additional information about

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how to prepare and develop that conceptual site model.

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Now, not all site models are going to, there's conceptual site models are going to be created equal, and that's important to understand here that they should be targeted or tailored to the site conditions

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And really just about identifying, getting the information to identify and manage those potential risks.

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So say, for example, we're at a complex hydro

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stratigraphic site where we've got, I don't know, layered sands and

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And glaze or maybe it's fractured rock, but a highly complex hydrostratographic

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subsurface. Well, then, yeah, it may take a lot more effort and cost to try and understand where are my sources and

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How are those hydrocarbons moving maybe between a source and a receptor? So bear that in mind as well as

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we might have to

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Spend more time on getting it right, getting that CSM right. So that's going to require more investment.

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At sites where we've got maybe sensitive receptors nearby or there's reputational risks or this potentially is a community issue or we've got hydrocarbons that are

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that are highly toxic.

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In that regard, we've got to get it right. So those are the sites where we're going to invest more in the CSM.

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But then there are sites where maybe we

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don't have to invest that much in the CSM because maybe it's a gas station located in an urban environment where there's no drinking water wells nearby. No one's potentially getting exposed.

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We can live with more uncertainty in our CSM, and I'll have you focus here in this middle box here. So long as we have

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enough information where we can bound that uncertainty or we're okay with having that uncertainty we can say we're

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done with that CSM because conditions are going to change on a site.

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You know, you may have seasonal changes in concentrations or distributions of hydrocarbon

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Yeah, maybe because of water table fluctuations, you get changes in the thickness of El Napple that might be present in a well. But if it's not changing the risk profile at the site.

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And maybe you're fine with your CSM and you can move on and you have the information needed to

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to make all the key questions, answer the key questions.

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And then if we just focus on the left side, we certainly have to have that information to be able to understand where our sources are, the pathways, and potential to impact current future receptors. And lastly, on the right side here.

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making sure if we do have a risk

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Do I have sufficient information to be able to identify my LNAPA goals, concerns, and objectives? We'll talk about these more in the next section.

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So that gets around the risk management part.

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And with that, I'm going to turn it over to

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to Tom, but I think a question just came in. Can Matt answer a question about where hydrocarbon vapors are primarily sourced, groundwater or Nelnapple?

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We are going to address that question later on in the webinar.

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But if we think about that just high level, hydrocarbon vapors are primarily going to be sourced from elm apple. Elm apple is going to be the primary

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driver then for petroleum vapor intrusion.

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Okay. With that, Tom, over to you.

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All right. Thanks, Matt. So Matt has kind of covered through this flow chart, working through your initial conceptual site model.

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doing your site screening.

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fine-tuning your conceptual site model to the point where now you can manage your site.

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And we're going to be looking then to refine your remedial goals and objectives.

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and implement your remediation to hopefully get you to the no further action

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site closure box that's shown on this flow chart.

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So let's look briefly at some of the exposure risks that petroleum hydrocarbons create

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And how those risks are created.

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Okay, so from the time of the release, you've been creating a csm

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And from that, you're identifying what concerns a release presents.

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And some of these examples are

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And I'll bring these out here.

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or that we run into acute risks, which are risks to health and safety.

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And that would be things like fire explosion or acute risks.

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L-napple then becomes a saturation risk

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And we have to be concerned about migrating Elmapple, which would expand the area of concern.

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We also then look at composition.

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And sometimes in conjunction with saturation concerns

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where we're looking at the dissolution of the El Nappo into other media.

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such as into vapor we're dividing out in TPH fractions

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and dissolving into groundwater.

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And this is usually defined by the toxicity

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of the compounds that are dissolved in these other media.

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And a lot of you are probably mostly wrestling with these issues.

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And finally, we can get into some aesthetic concerns

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And these might involve sheens that appear at the edges of stream banks or other

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water bodies. We also worry about aesthetics, whether these are staining and odor

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or even geotechnical concerns that the El Napple might

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prevent the soil from being used for proper building purposes.

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So we're going to go through some of the remedial terminology that we're going to be using.

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Apart from acute and emergency risks.

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which are addressed immediately, ITRC identifies three remedial concerns for LNAP.

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The saturation concerns are derived from the amount and behavior of L-napple in the formation

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We'll talk about this a little bit more in the next slide.

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composition concerns are derived from the chemistry of the yellen apple.

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such as those associated with vapors

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groundwater and soil contact.

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And then the other aesthetic issues that I've mentioned

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that you need to address.

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The ITRC LNAPL 3 guidance established a decision process to identify ill-napple concerns

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And to us to help you establish remedial goals, objectives.

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and select remedial technologies. And I really encourage you to look at the LNAPL 3 document online.

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First, bone apple concerns are verified using threshold metrics

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They're usually detailed in the guidance.

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either with ITRC or in your state guidance.

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There are some perceived concerns that may be eliminated.

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Next, remedial goals are established, which translate

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into an elen apple concern

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having a measurable LNAP outcome

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Each concern may have its own goal.

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or sometimes multiple concerns may share a common goal.

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And that is that you're trying to maybe

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reduce your contaminants of concern to below cleanup levels.

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And finally, your remedial objective

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describes the goals will be how the goals will be accomplished

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And these are linked to the technologies that you choose.

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So you may target volatiles

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using soil vapor extraction, for example.

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and set a set of metrics to judge

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how far that system can carry you before you may need to move to a different technology or strategy.

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However, regulations on how to identify and address concerns can vary by state, and we want to emphasize that this is based on risk-based corrective actions.

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that may vary in your state or not exist at all.

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Tell knuckle sites typically exist under three conditions presented on this slide.

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site one at the top

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has a new release. Ilnapple saturations and gradients are very high and the Ilnapple footprint is expanding. In other words, the El Napple is migrating.

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The immediate concern here is a saturation concern because the El Napo area can expand to impact more receptors.

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El Napple migration should be mitigated immediately.

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However, it's also important to understand compositional concerns may also be present at this time.

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We'll talk about how to mitigate LNAPO a little later in this presentation.

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At the second site in the middle.

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at most sites, Elnapol was observed in wells

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And the El Naple footprint is stable.

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We call this mobile L-NAP.

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It may move in and out of the well screen

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But the El Napple body is not migrating.

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The LNAP will be recoverable.

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But the primary concern to evaluate at this point are associated with composition

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the composition in the soil, vapor in the dissolved concentrations.

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Belnapple recovery may be a component of the remedy

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It may even be a regulatory requirement

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But compositional concerns will drive the health and safety risks.

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It's site three on the bottom. El Napple is not observed in wells.

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But LNAP was trapped in the pore space.

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known as residual LNAP,

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The residual LNAPA will continue to be a long-term source of compositional concerns.

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In summary here, sites one and two look a lot the same. You can see El Napple is visible in the wells.

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But sites two and three behave the same with respect to their associated

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compositional risk profiles.

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So let's look a little bit further at how to contrast saturation and compositional goals.

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and why recovery may or may not be really necessary at your site.

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the composition of the El Napa was the main risk driver on most petroleum sites.

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So let's focus on how we can be able to change the compositional risks we face.

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Why is composition change so important?

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Research has shown that a reduction in saturation

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In other words, the LNAPLE mass

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has little effect on the dissolved concentration

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Unless almost all the elen apple from the source is removed.

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It's more effective to target constituents of concern

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that are a small fraction of the total L-napple.

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In this situation, you can see on the chart that if we move from point a

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to point B by removing

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elm apple, we really don't change the concentration of benzene that's present in the groundwater.

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So using a phase change remedial technology, which we'll talk about later, is to reduce the benzene concentration in groundwater

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from a to c

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will get us to our closure goal that much more quicker

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and reduce risk by recovering some, but maybe not all of the bulk gasoline.

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Now let's go through seven key points that we want you to understand about El Napple

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And Steve will kick off the first one.

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Steve?

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Thank you, Tom.

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Just waiting for…

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Control.

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Nope, that's you. That wasn't me.

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Sorry, RF, got control.

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All right. Yeah. Thanks, Tom. I'm going to start talking about some of those key messages. We're going to start with…

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Elmap on a well does not mean that LNAP is migrating.

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In fact, most NAPPL bodies stabilize relatively quickly. And at most petroleum sites.

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The elen apple plume is likely stable.

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This is a cross-sectional view of an elm apple plume focused on the elm apple gradient over time.

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The LNAPLE gradient are the primary driving force for migration, but the gradient is going to dissipate over time for a finite release of El Napol as shown on this slide.

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The photos are from a sand tank experiment with the El Napple dyed red. The left slide.

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The left side is shortly after the release reaches the water table and the right side is some time after the release was abated.

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the illustrations, the illustrations above are a graphical depiction of the sand tank pictures below.

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The LNAPLE gradients can be measured as the altitude of the air Napple interface in the monitor wells. The white dashed line represents the LNAPL gradient on the photos.

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And the red line in the illustration.

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As you can see, the gradient decreases as the L and Apple body expands.

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The key factor that stabilizes finite LNAPA releases quickly is capillary retention.

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in the soil matrix. That is losses to residual saturation

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or LNAP will trapped in the soil pores.

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As El Napple migrates…

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laterally and vertically in the smear zone as that water table fluctuates.

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In summary, El Napple migration is self-limiting and a finite release. As the footprint expands.

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the gradient decreases, reducing that driving force. And as that footprint expands, a portion of that elm apple is retained in the soil pores as residual, reducing that potential mobility.

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And it is simply a finite release means a finite extent.

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In addition to that finite volume stabilizing LNAPLE bodies.

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Elena stability is also supported by active and natural loss mechanisms.

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While this quote that you see on the screen was intended for dissolved phase plumes.

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It also holds for an apple bodies. The loss mechanisms can be active recovery, enhanced biodegradation, natural biodegradation, or other mechanisms.

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Where these mechanisms result in sufficient losses in a given phase to balance out the flux of that phase.

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then stability can be achieved.

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The illustration here is depicting natural source zone depletion, or NSCD, that stabilizes the NAPA body.

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natural source zone depletion includes dissolution, volatilization, and biodegradation of the LNAP.

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Impacts to groundwater that occur as a result of finite L and apple releases have been investigated and studied over the past several decades.

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El Napple bodies were once thought to continue to migrate indefinitely.

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Similar to groundwater flow. However, field observations

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And an updated understanding of LNAPA behavior and saturated media.

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found that the finite elemental plumes become stable in relatively short periods of time.

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For several reasons, as we just covered in the previous slides.

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Early in the release, LNAPLE gradients and high saturations

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can dominate that movement and distribution.

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that movement and distribution can result in elen apple spraying that's faster than groundwater flow.

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due to these large gradients, large heads at the time of the release. They can also cause

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NAPA migration upgrading and cross gradient, this radial spreading.

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And these initial conditions will change over time as those L and Apple gradients dissipate and those LNAPLE saturations in the pore space reduce due to that spreading and losses to residual saturation.

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And as we mentioned, these plumes essentially stabilize in a relatively short period of time.

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what we've found is typically in less than five years.

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So the emerging method for evaluating LNAP stability is using multiple lines of evidence.

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This slide references lines of evidence provided in the upcoming ASTM.

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guide moving petroleum sites to closure.

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This is scheduled to be released next year.

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The intent here is just to provide an overview of some field-based lines of evidence used to assess El Napple stability.

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Now, the number of lines of evidence used at your site to demonstrate stability

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It depends on your CSM and the receptors

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and the conditions of your site. But the ASTM guide recommends that maybe as

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as little as one line of evidence is needed.

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If the release has been abated more than five years ago, if the release was abated less than five years ago or it's unknown.

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unknown, maybe two lines of evidence

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But it's important to know that the number of lines of evidence should be dependent on the complexity of the site and the proximity to your receptors.

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And of course, you know, in all cases, a CSM with sufficient data to demonstrate temporal and spatial variability is necessary to demonstrate

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your LNAPA is not migrating.

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We're going to take a quick…

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A quick break to do a little Q&A, a little live Q&A session. So I'll let Nicole moderate that for a few minutes.

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Thanks, Steve. We are working through the Q&A pod. So thank you for everybody that's using it as the questions come up to you. We are also responding to them, so you should be able to see the question and answers if you open

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And then I want to remind everybody that the next class

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this exact same session will be hosted January 30th and registration opens tomorrow.

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Same website that you logged into today will have the registration open.

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We're going to do two Q&A questions right now, and then Steve, we'll have you keep going. But Diana, when you are requesting TPH sampling at sites, do you need to request contractors break out additional sampling for LNAP?

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Thanks, Nicole.

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Ideally, I'm going to say yes. And the reason I'm saying this is because

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TP, typically your TPH analyses are gas chromatograph analyses and

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If you send a lab an L apple sample and ask them to analyze it by a GC method.

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it's going to get extremely diluted.

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And your results are probably not going to be very reliable because your lab's not going to want to blow out their analytical column.

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So yeah, generally you would want to sample those for, use different sampling for those.

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Great. Thank you. Matt, I know that you responded, but maybe you can um

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add on a little bit. Our hydrocarbon vapors in Vadosone sourced primarily from dissolved phase in groundwater or from elm apple?

00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:33.000
Yeah, thanks for the question, Nicole, and whoever raised it.

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they are going to be associated with an El Napple source. It's very rare. In fact, we asked this question once amongst the

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all of the folks who were involved in putting together the PVI technical reg

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whether or not they had ever seen

00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.000
a case where…

00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:03.000
they had petroleum vapor intrusion associated with a purely dissolved phase groundwater source and nobody

00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:08.000
could come up with one. So it is definitely a rare case

00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:20.000
But must be mindful that it's very easy to think that you have a dissolved phase source when actually residual LNAPPO might be present. It's just not showing up.

00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:27.000
in a groundwater monitoring well, and we'll talk a little bit more about that going forward. So good question. Thank you.

00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:37.000
That's great. And I want to compliment the attendees. We have a lot of really interesting questions coming in. We're doing our best to continue to answer them as we go forward. So keep

00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:44.000
populating the Q&A as we go, but I'm going to let Steve continue into the next key message.

00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:47.000
All right, thank you. And I see there's a couple of NAFL questions.

00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:49.000
Mark can either answer those

00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:56.000
or Matt can answer those on the chat or I can do them when I'm complete some of these uh

00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.000
my sections.

00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:03.000
But yeah, we're going to move on to move on to move on to move on.

00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:06.000
Key message number two.

00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.000
Which is elm apple thickness

00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:12.000
has often been used to evaluate Elmapple sites

00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.000
and make remedial decisions.

00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:19.000
But what are these gauge and apple thickness really telling us?

00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:26.000
And it's really not much other than NAFL is present in the formation.

00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:29.000
So LNAP will take this in a well.

00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:40.000
has different volumes in the formation depending on the soil type of the formation and different volumes in the formation result in different thicknesses in the well, depending on the soil type.

00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:45.000
The graphic in the middle represents a monitoring well with three feet of an apple.

00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:57.000
And the chart on the left presents different napple saturation profiles using the vertical equilibrium model for different soil types. And the El Napa specific volume associated with that soil type.

00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:01.000
The specific volume is the volume of elmapple

00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:06.000
per square foot of the aerial footprint of the Elen Apple body.

00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:10.000
in the early days, and some might still have this misperception

00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:15.000
Elenapel is thought to float on the water table and occupy 100% of the pore space.

00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:18.000
This is represented by that pink zone of the chart.

00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:22.000
The volume of gasoline via the pancake model was simply

00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:26.000
calculated by multiplying the thickness in the well

00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:29.000
by the porosity of the formation. In this case.

00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:32.000
seven and a half gallons per square foot.

00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:40.000
Research has shown that the elm apple shares the pore space with water and the distribution of NAPA water and air

00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.000
Depends on the soil and elen apple types.

00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:46.000
including capillary properties, interfacial tension, and density.

00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:49.000
The vertical equilibrium model, or VEQ,

00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:54.000
derived elm apple saturation profile looks like a shark fin. See the black

00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:58.000
Diane pink and red lines on the chart.

00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.000
And it's often referred to as a shark fin.

00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.000
The coarser the grain size, the higher the elm apple saturation for a given thickness.

00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:10.000
And the higher the specific volume for the same measured nappble thickness in the well.

00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:19.000
The pancake model over predicts the volume and the overprediction gets more and more significant as that grain size becomes smaller.

00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:25.000
LNAP will recovering at two wells with three feet of LNAPLE, one in gravel and one in silt.

00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:28.000
will have very different recovery rates.

00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:41.000
And this is a primary reason why El Napo transmissivity has become a key metric in El Napo remedial decision making.

00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:50.000
So I'm going to show you a quick movie about a diesel El Nava body in a gravelly sand aqua that is characterized by seasonal water table fluctuations.

00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:55.000
But quickly, the blue gauge on the right side of each picture provides the average water level.

00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:05.000
And the color contours represent the napple thickness in the wells. And that's what's plotted in the middle is the napple thickness, this body right here is the napple thickness over time.

00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:08.000
and each date.

00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:15.000
is plotted. So the extent engaged and apple thickness were measured in over 50 wells across the site for five years.

00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:20.000
The gauge and apple thickness in well measurements range from zero to four feet

00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:33.000
The groundwater level fluctuates approximately eight feet seasonally and the image illustrates the influence of water table fluctuations in trapping elm apple as the water rises into the Napple saturation profile.

00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:37.000
and the subsequent drainage of Napa during periods of low water level.

00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:45.000
During this time period, there's an operating LNAPA recovery system which resulted in the continued loss of El Napple mass from the aquifer.

00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:50.000
So if you're just looking at napple thicknesses and wells and trying to figure out what's happening.

00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:55.000
you might think there are new releases. You might think there are migration.

00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:58.000
Just by looking at where this napple appears and disappears at the site.

00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.000
So it's really important to think about

00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.000
what's happening at the water table.

00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:09.000
And to make these napple thicknesses change over time.

00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:13.000
So this next slide is going to give you a little more insight into what's happening.

00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:23.000
And hydrographs are an important piece of, you should always use a hydrograph when looking at an apple thicknesses over time, particularly.

00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:24.000
And that's what you're seeing on the bottom.

00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:31.000
The blue line is groundwater elevation. That red line is your NAPA thickness.

00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:39.000
And above that is kind of a vertical profile showing that water and napple saturation profile. Blue is water

00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:44.000
red is your natural saturation. And you can see that red looks like a shark fin.

00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.000
zeros percent saturations on the right

00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:50.000
And 100% saturation is on the left.

00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:53.000
at a panel a represents the panel represents

00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:57.000
say a new release, Nappa accumulates at the water table

00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:02.000
And when you look down below it, you have a measurable thickness in the well.

00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.000
In panel B, the water table falls

00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:10.000
And Tom mentioned it. You get this snail trail of Napple that napple

00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:15.000
falls with the water table and leaves some residual napple in the formation.

00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.000
You can see that red line along the VATO zone.

00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:24.000
And then in panel C, the water table begins to rise.

00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:26.000
And a lot of Napa was trapped

00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:30.000
is occluded in the pore spaces. And the key here is

00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:33.000
in a two-phase system under Napa and water

00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:40.000
The residual saturation for NAPA is higher. So more napa is trapped in the water and NAPA system than in air

00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:48.000
water and apple system. So as that water table rises, a lot of Napolis trapped in the porch space and you can see there's less

00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:53.000
NAFL in that shark fin portion at the water table. And there's less napple in the well.

00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:57.000
looking at that hydrograph. If that water table rises enough

00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:02.000
all the NAPA will be trapped as residual and you might not see Nappa in the well.

00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:08.000
If you think about that movie you just saw, there are time periods where there's no Napple appearing in the well.

00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.000
And then if the water table falls.

00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:15.000
Again, back to conditions that we saw in panel B.

00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:21.000
Napa will again accumulate in that well as we go back to that lower three phase residual saturation

00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:25.000
an apple can drain from those pore spaces that were previously occluded.

00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:28.000
So this happens all the time.

00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:35.000
a ton of calls, particularly during drought conditions where people call me and said, I have napoon wells that I haven't seen in 10 years.

00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:40.000
So this is a common condition. So again, it's very important to look at

00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:48.000
water tables when you're evaluating napple thicknesses and changes in those conditions.

00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:51.000
Oops.

00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:56.000
And again, thickness always seems like a good indicator. Easy to measure, easy to look at.

00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:02.000
But it's not. We've been discussing unconfined El Napple, which you see on the top section of this chart.

00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:06.000
We're El Napple in the well is adjacent to the bulk of the Napple.

00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.000
in the formation, typically at or near the water table.

00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:13.000
Water table fluctuations will have this inverse relationship.

00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:19.000
As the water table falls, the L and Apple thickness will increase. But what happens?

00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:24.000
When El Nappel is sitting on a low permeable layer. Look at the middle image on the lower level.

00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:27.000
This is called the perch L-napple condition.

00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:32.000
In this instance, the elen apple has enough head to migrate downward through the veto zone.

00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:42.000
But it can't because it's blocked by the soil poor fine grain soil with high engine pressure.

00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.000
If a well is advanced through this perching layer.

00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:48.000
that napple that's trapped, that's resting on that perching leg

00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:52.000
who enter that well and accumulate in that well, who depress the water

00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:58.000
that's at the water table and we'll fill that well up until it equilibrates with that napple at that perching layer.

00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.000
You'll get this exaggerated sickness.

00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:04.000
And as that water table falls.

00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:05.000
that an apple thickness will actually increase.

00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:09.000
So you get this exaggerated in well thickness.

00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:13.000
And if you look to the left, you have a confining condition. This is kind of the inverse.

00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:15.000
Napa was able to get

00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:26.000
below the water table, this might have happened during historical groundwater pumping, historical droughts. The Naples deep in the formation. It's trapped below a confining layer.

00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:30.000
And when the water table rises, that an apple enters

00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.000
can enter a well and fill that well up until that

00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:36.000
the hydrostatic pressure equivalent rates.

00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:40.000
And when the water table rises, napple thickness increases.

00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:48.000
And we see wells with 5, 10, 20, 40 feet of napple, all because of where that napple just exists below the water table.

00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:51.000
So you get these large exaggerations.

00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:52.000
And finally.

00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:56.000
certain fractured or preferential pathways you can

00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:01.000
without confined or perched behaviors depending on where the fracture network is.

00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:06.000
Or where the water chain was. So you get these additional complexities that really

00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:13.000
give you some challenges on what it means. So remember, LNAP and a monitoring well means LNAP was present in the formation

00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:20.000
And El Napa is mobile. It does not mean it's recoverable or migrating. Additional work is necessary to understand

00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:28.000
stability if it's migrating or if it's recoverable.

00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:34.000
And then we've been touching on it, and I think there was a question about residual NAFL.

00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:39.000
But this is one of the key points is LMAPPL can be hiding in plain sight.

00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:44.000
And this is one of these tricks that we have some tips for you to look for when you're

00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:51.000
trying to evaluate your site and looking for this residual napple.

00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:58.000
And as we kind of mentioned, I think there's some questions about it. Matt answered it. Why is it so critical?

00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.000
As we mentioned earlier, the magnitude of that mass in the Napple

00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:05.000
source drives the vapor and dissolves these plumes.

00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:11.000
understanding that an apple source is important when targeting remediation and identifying potential concerns.

00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:19.000
particularly important for site screening for PVI because that hydrocarbon vapors will tend to migrate farther above an L and Apple source.

00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:28.000
that it is all phase source. The magnitude of the vapor concentrations derived from NAPL is much greater than a dissolph phase plume.

00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:35.000
And because of that, that residual L-navel sources are often mistaken for dissolving sources.

00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:37.000
Even though they're present.

00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:40.000
And they represent a PVI risk as

00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:49.000
more similar to one where NAPA is mobile, right? So that mobile, you see those two graphics on the left, the mobile or migrating Apple or NAPPL is in a well.

00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:53.000
acts the same as a residual NAPPL source.

00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:55.000
Even though NAPA is not present.

00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:57.000
And the trick is

00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:06.000
wells with known apple looked just like a dissolved face. Well, so you have to, so it's critical to differentiate the two

00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:12.000
because of the magnitude of those sources, right? We'll have high dissolve phase plumes, we'll have strong vapor

00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:15.000
sources.

00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:17.000
So the nice thing is

00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:22.000
IGRC published some general indicators in the PVI guidance.

00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:28.000
These criteria here were based largely on assuming the Naples gasoline.

00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:34.000
Therefore, you should be applied with caution if assessing other fuel types.

00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:40.000
The NAPA indicators presented here are defined based on groundwater and soil concentration data.

00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:44.000
As well as the relative proximity to where the petroleum release initially occurred.

00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:50.000
The values listed in this table are not intended to be used as absolutes or even in isolation.

00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:54.000
Rather, as general rule of thumb and in multiple lines of evidence fashion.

00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:58.000
So these are just guidance. If you start seeing

00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:08.000
Some concentrations or these types of conditions, start thinking you might have residual napple in that vicinity.

00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:11.000
And then additionally, while not printed in the PBI guidance.

00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:13.000
If you have soil gas data.

00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:18.000
These type of concentrations could be indicative of an apple source.

00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:22.000
When we start talking about natural source zone depletion more, we start looking at

00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:25.000
Soil gas data as well as in

00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:28.000
TVI. But when you start seeing low oxygen

00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:31.000
elevated carbon dioxide and methane

00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:36.000
Those are strong indicators that there's biodegradation of an apple source

00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:41.000
in the formation. So again, indication of residual NAFL

00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:52.000
Elevated benzene at those concentrations. And then these hexanes and aliphatics. Those level of concentrations are typically not seen in the dissolve phase.

00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:57.000
Mostly because those are not very soluble compounds. So you wouldn't see them

00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.000
at any distance from an Apple source.

00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:05.000
So again, this table, these data is not in the PVI guidance

00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:12.000
But they were used when developing some of these screening distance. So just some other tools to use for yourself.

00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:15.000
And then finally, here's some um

00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:21.000
a list of a number of links that we provided from the LMApple 3

00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:24.000
guidance document to help develop your site CSM.

00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:37.000
All these LCSM, LMAPL conceptual site model elements provide important information to understand and predict LNAPA behavior at your site and are valuable lines of evidence to support management strategy.

00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:39.000
decision. So highly recommend

00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:47.000
to dive in, explore these tools. So it could be very helpful and useful.

00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:52.000
And then we're going to dive into key message number four.

00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:59.000
that biodegradation helps elena bodies in groundwater plumes stabilize and shrink.

00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:04.000
And this tax has been recognized and well documented for dissolph hydrocarbon plumes.

00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:08.000
Monitored natural attenuation is an established remedy.

00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:20.000
But this has not been identified as a significant factor in LNAPAL plume evolution until relatively recently.

00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:23.000
So a stable novel body is like a glacier.

00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:26.000
Glaciers are constantly flowing downhill.

00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:29.000
But that leading edge is stable.

00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:32.000
And that's because of the evaporation and melting

00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:35.000
along that glacier as it's moving.

00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:37.000
And a stable novel body.

00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.000
We have mobile novel. We have a gradient.

00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:45.000
theoretically, there's some Apple that might be moving along that napple body.

00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:50.000
However, we have natural losses that are occurring that are counteracting that.

00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:54.000
that migration that inside an Apple body.

00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:57.000
In this case, we have volatilization.

00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:01.000
dissolution and primarily biodegradation.

00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:06.000
Collectively, these processes are known as natural source zone depletion.

00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:14.000
for NSDD.

00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:22.000
And while aerobic biodegradation is recognized as the most rapid in situ destruction mechanism for hydrocarbons.

00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.000
L-naval bodies are almost always found in

00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:29.000
And basically they create an anaerobic environment.

00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:36.000
El Napple was once thought to weather primarily through volatilization and dissolution, which were

00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:41.000
Then biodegradation biodegraded in the vapor and dissolve phase.

00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:47.000
This misperception was largely because of the limited solubility of petroleum hydrocarbons.

00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:50.000
maybe the slow anaerobic degradation rates

00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:55.000
and possibly the toxic environment inhibiting microbial growth within the NAPA body.

00:58:55.000 --> 00:59:14.000
However, recent, relatively recent studies have shown that anaerobic biodegradation processes are very active within the elm apple body and biodegradation is a significant loss mechanism.

00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:16.000
And if you recall that shark fin model

00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:19.000
Where El Napple shares the pore space with the water.

00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:23.000
Microbes live in that water adjacent to the elm apple.

00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:34.000
They do not require hydrocarbons to be soluble as the microbes utilize surfactants and intercellular diffusion to overcome those solubility limits.

00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:43.000
microbial activities have been found at all petroleum sites from the Arctic to the equator. So we see this. They are ubiquitous everywhere we've looked, we've seen it.

00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:45.000
they're very

00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:53.000
agile and adaptable community, right?

00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:56.000
So again, a little details on what NSCD is.

00:59:56.000 --> 01:00:01.000
And at most sites, the NAFL, the majority of LNAPO is at or below the water table.

01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:05.000
The Elena source is anaerobic, as you mentioned.

01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:10.000
And methanogenesis is the primary microbial process depleting the elm apple.

01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:13.000
methane and carbon dioxide are generated.

01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:16.000
that methane has low solubility.

01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:19.000
And it off gases into the beta sum.

01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:22.000
Where it is aerobically degraded.

01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:26.000
utilizing oxygen and generating carbon dioxide and heat.

01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:31.000
The utilization of oxygen or the production of carbon dioxide and heat in the beta zone

01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:35.000
are typically what we use to quantify NSCD.

01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:39.000
that El Nappel biodegradation.

01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:42.000
As I said, mostly occurs in the saturated zone

01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:47.000
But that secondary reaction, the ones we actually can measure

01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:49.000
occur in the Vedo zone.

01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.000
And 99% of the NSED processes

01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:56.000
the degradation of the apple are typically accounted for.

01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:03.000
in these Vedo zone reactions that we can measure. Therefore, most of our quantification

01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:09.000
methods focus on these datosome reactions. That's why if people have heard about, we do CO2 flux.

01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:16.000
We do the gradient method looking at oxygen, and we do temperature evaluations, temperature profiling.

01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:24.000
And also there's some elm apple composition work being done out there. But we look at these beta zone reactions. We can capture all

01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:27.000
or 99% of that.

01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:38.000
NAPL depletion rate looking at these beta zone reactions.

01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:43.000
And this slide shows a comparison of NSCG rates and energy.

01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.000
engineered recovery rates

01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:49.000
And they're converted to NSCD units to kind of make this comparison.

01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:51.000
These units are in

01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:54.000
We often do it in gallons per acre per year.

01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:58.000
These are in liters per hectare per year.

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The box and whisker charts plots the actual remediation system recovery rates from 43 sites that demonstrate a range of several thousands to upwards of 30,000

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liters per hectare per year for active recovery. And then these other studies summarize NSED rates from 40 sites, and they show a similar range.

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That gray box is the middle 50th percentile.

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Basically, the box of the box and whisker chart.

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So this represents a similar range to the active remediation.

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And the 90th, basically, and also that study showed that

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90% of the NSED rates were greater than 1,600 liters per hectare per year or 170

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gallons per acre per year.

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excuse me, per year.

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And this chart just shows that NSCD can be as effective

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as engineered systems at many sites.

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Especially sites with mature elm apple plumes that are stable, maybe the transmissivity is low, the Napa is no longer recoverable.

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And one reason why is NSCD processes are working across the full footprint.

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Every drop of an apple, maybe not every drop, but right across the full footprint, the residual, the mobile

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the full vertical interval. It has 100 targeting

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So that's the power of NSCD.

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It works across the full flow.

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So in summary on NSCD, it should be an integral part

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and component of your LNAPO conceptual site model.

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NSD data can provide insight to the LNAPA distribution.

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kind of mentioned it earlier on being

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helping identify where your residual L-navel is.

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It can be used to evaluate

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persistence of constituents. You can use NSED processes and changing your own alcohol composition.

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to understand maybe how a compound might persist over time. Understanding the site's risk profile might allow NSD alone

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to be an effective remedy by itself.

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And then quantifying the NSD rate

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is also valuable. As LNAPA behavior and recoverability changes over time.

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Both these NSCD processes are always at work.

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And so remediation practitioners need to take this into account as remedy baselines or transition points

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for recovery strategies and treatment trains.

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And I'd like to touch on polar metabolites. I think I saw some silca gel cleanup questions come through.

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um and uh

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The biodegradation of petroleum compounds occurs over a number of steps. Benzene doesn't

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go to carbon dioxide and water instantly. There's a number of processes that happen.

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And you get these intermediate products of biodegradation

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petroleum metabolites and they're also called polar metabolites

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And they have some unique chemical properties.

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To begin with, the polymer tabloids include oxygen, which make them polar.

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which causes these polar metabolites to preferentially

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partition into water, making them very soluble and mobile.

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The table on the bottom right illustrates differences in solubilities and boiling points of N-hexane

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versus its polar metabolites to hexanone and hexanonoic acid.

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As you can see, and hexane solubility limit is three orders of magnitude lower than its polar metabolites.

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The result of this is shown in the plume graphic.

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in the upper center of the page, where polar metabolites have migrated further in groundwater versus dissolved phase hydrocarbons like DTEx. So the blue plume is longer than that orange plume.

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And we've seen this a number of times.

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Is TPH concentrations start to exhibit an increasing trend at older plumes.

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And the plume appears to be expanding.

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But it's due to the biodegradation

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and increases in polar metabolites. So when you just do TPH analysis.

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Without a silica gel cleanup, you can get this increasing TPH trend.

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So another thing to point out is metabolites also have different toxicological properties relative to the parent hydrocarbons.

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And toxicity factors develop for polar metabolites tend to be lower than the toxicity factors assigned to the undegrated hydrocarbons.

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So how do you identify a polar metabolites? Kind of touched on it briefly.

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One easy way is analysis of TPH with and without silica gel cleanup.

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The silica gel removes the polar metabolites.

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from the groundwater.

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And you can see, so that purple line is pointing to an analysis that it's circled of a TPHD sample with and without cleanup. So the sample without soca gel cleanup, the result is in green.

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2,900 micrograms per liter

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When you do your silica gel cleanup, it was non-detect.

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So that sample was all that was

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polar metabolites, theoretically.

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You can also, if you didn't have a silk or gel cleanup, it was done, you say some older data was all

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Just traditional TGH without silica child cleanup. Maybe you can look at your chromatograms.

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you might see this metabolite hump

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the UCM.

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That's typical of a

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polar metabolites captured in the chromatogram.

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So another line of evidence that there's

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polar metabolites in your analysis. And finally.

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The third line of evidence is the nature extent of the TPH.

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You can see the red lines pointing back towards that

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that polar metabolite CSM.

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Essentially asking if the sample in question was collected down gradient of both the release area and the dissolve phase extent in groundwater.

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And the illustration is a hypothetical site map.

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showing the LNAP release in dark orange, the dissolve phase BTEX in the light orange.

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And further downgraded migration of these petroleum metabolites shown in

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the light blue. The polar metabolites should travel further because they are polar they're much more soluble they're much more mobile

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Then the dissolved hydrocarbon aromatics and aliphatics. So, you know, putting together that CSM, putting together

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you know more lines of evidence to demonstrate that

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you do have these polar metabolites.

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And I just want to end my key message with that aero biodegradation is a key process that limits

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petroleum vapor intrusion. As petroleum hydrocarbons

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biodegradation rates in the beta zone exceed upward migration. That limits that.

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that TVI. Aerial biodegradation results in the utilization of oxygen

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And the chart on the right shows a typical vertical profile soil concentrations and temperature above an elm apple source.

01:09:51.000 --> 01:10:07.000
the methane generated from an anaerobic biodegradation of elm apple and hydrocarbons that volatilize from the elm apple utilize that oxygen near the elm apple source area, and in most cases, the methane generated from anaerobic biodegradation

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will be completely occupied.

01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:15.000
oxidized to carbon dioxide at some distance above the hydrocarbon data source.

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The point where this occurs is turn the aerobic anaerobic horizon.

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And it roughly coincides with the location of the beta zone where there is a complete attenuation of methane

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this red line.

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oxygen concentrations begin to increase, the blue line.

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and carbon dioxide concentrations begin to decrease, the green line.

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The interface is also where a temperature anomaly, the yellow line, is typically observed as a result of the heat generated from the oxidation of methane and other hydrocarbons.

01:10:49.000 --> 01:11:04.000
Is it also important to point out that the figure shown here is generally a representation of the conditions found in the VEDA zone above an LNAP pollute source, and the conceptual site model provides a theory to support soil gas and temperature methods for natural source completion.

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just aerobic and anaerobic interface would be located much closer to the water table, the dissolved phase source where there would be little, if any methane generated, like in a dissolved phase source area.

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And with that, I think I turn it over.

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to man.

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Yeah, hi, guys.

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And this key message five gets back to one of the questions that was asked earlier about

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What is the primary source for petroleum vapors? And it's primarily associated again with El Napple.

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And so this message is around source type

01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:50.000
Source type matters. Also, before we get into

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LNAPA versus groundwater.

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Source type matters from the perspective that

01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:01.000
PVI sources are mainly

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gasolines and not your diesels or your middle distillates, bunker fuel, fuel oil

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those fuel types that have the hydrocarbons or the higher carbon atom numbers.

01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:23.000
president because those are typically not volatile hydrocarbons.

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So it's gasoline we want to focus on. That's going to be the key risk driver for petroleum vapor intrusion.

01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:32.000
now we know in that.

01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:41.000
It's we need to, again, be able to differentiate between an LNAPL source and a dissolved phase source. And it's because it manifests itself in how we screen sites.

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So there is more vertical separation needed between your hydrocarbon source and soil or groundwater and you're building

01:12:54.000 --> 01:13:05.000
for concentrations of key constituents of concern, maybe it's benzene to fall below some kind of risk-based screening level.

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of concern for vapor intrusion.

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And as just presented to you by Steve, it's going to be

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Where you're above this anaerobic aerobic interface or horizon in that zone where aro biodegradation is occurring. And that's where

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Hydrocarbons are degraded faster than they can migrate vertically upward by processes such as diffusion and advection.

01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:36.000
So that's what makes

01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:41.000
this screening distance concept very, or hydrocarbon

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petroleum vapor intrusion sites very conducive for screening

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Based on distance.

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And so what you find in the ITRC document are screening distances of 15 to 18 feet recommended

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15 feet if you have a petroleum UST site and 18 feet if you have a petroleum industrial site, meaning you've got a refinery

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manufacturing site, pipeline release site, a terminal maybe.

01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:26.000
Some site where you have a larger volume of LNAPA that got into the subsurface that may create more of an anaerobic environment. And then we see five feet for dissolved phase sources.

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And it's six feet if you look at EPA's petroleum hydrocarbon guides.

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So we could apply those same vertical screening distances laterally because biodegradation is just going to do its thing regardless of where the LNAP is positioned relative to the building, but in the ITRC guidance.

01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:53.000
how we screen sites laterally is based on a distance of 30 feet.

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Not 15 feet or five feet.

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And it's all because, and this is what we call the lateral inclusion zone. So any building located within that 30 foot distance between El Napple source and the Vedo zone or a groundwater source

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is going to get screened in for potential vapor intrusion. And it's based on the fact that

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we just have greater uncertainty in where that

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lateral edge of the L-napple or dissolved phase source is, and that's because we space wells typically on the order

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tens of feet or

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you know five meters or so and just have some some ambiguity there. So it was meant to provide a buffer distance, but certainly if you can definitively find the edge of your source

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Yeah, you could default to distances of 5 and 15 feet. Now, I will point out one unusual feature issue that would come up is you could have El Napo within, let's say, 15 feet.

01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:08.000
of a building in the Vedos zone, but you also has its dissolphase source that goes underneath that building. In that scenario.

01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:13.000
the LNAPL screening distance would have to be applied. It trumps

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Trump's vote. Okay.

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There are site conditions where there are

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we can't apply the screening distances. And those are what we call

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precluding factors. And when these precluding factors are present such as

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preferential pathways where we might have utility corridors present, conduits or fractured rock that connects the vapor source to the building.

01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:47.000
And that's the operative word in there, connects the vapor source or connect

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They may be present at the site, but if they don't connect the two, then it's not serving as a preferential pathway. But if those are present.

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We cannot apply the screening distances.

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We can't apply them as well if we've got certain fuel types present like

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fuels that might have been in the marketplace back in the pre-1990s days, which had leaded fuels or leaded lead in them.

01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:17.000
As well as lead scavengers or

01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:19.000
future fuels that might become more

01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:26.000
prominent in the market that contain greater than 10% ethanol by volume.

01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:37.000
And it's just because we just don't have a lot of information on those types of fuels to know whether or not these screening distances apply. Well, that was

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Back in the days when this ITRC tech reg was put together back in 2014, 2015 timeframe.

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Since then, there has been some literature reported and suggests that lead scavengers are not going to create on a

01:17:54.000 --> 01:18:04.000
Or I'll say that the screening distances that have been developed of 5 and 15 feet will apply for both lead scavengers and for

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ethanol fuels containing ethanol in greater quantities than 10%.

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Also, a precluding factor here is expanding advancing plumes. Obviously, as a plume migrates down gradient, there's more potential for a building to

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potentially have a petroleum vapor intrusion issue, so we can't screen those out based on distance. And lastly, we can't screen out sites where we have unusual soil types, either very, very dry that don't have the moisture content.

01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:40.000
to support biodegradation or have a high organic matter.

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content, not your typical clays, but maybe a peat where

01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:54.000
there's some natural respiration going on that's consuming oxygen that would otherwise be available for biodegradation of the hydrocarbons.

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And EPA, I'll also note here, does have additional precluding factor defined in their guidance of buildings that have large

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foundation footprints of greater than 66 feet on the side or around 20 meters on the side.

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Now, if you can't screen out based on distance.

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ITRC recommends a hierarchy of sampling that would start

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with soil gas.

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Then sub slab, then indoor air. So if there's any separation between the building and your source of hydrocarbons in the subsurface.

01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:40.000
really want to target soil gas. And a lot of those times you're going to find that the concentrations for these key chemical concerns are already below a risk-based screening level for vapor intrusion.

01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:45.000
But we want to try to stay away from the building and around the building because of the fact that

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Once we get inside the building.

01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:59.000
we're going to potentially encounter indoor air sources of the same constituents that are found in gasoline, like BTEX, benzene, toluene, ethyl benzene, and xylenes.

01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:06.000
But also they'll get below the foundation because buildings breathe both ways depending on

01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:11.000
wind and pressure effects that may cause

01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:16.000
that pressure differential with inside the building versus the subsurface to

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to flip around.

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Those would be scenarios though in scenario two here where if your building is close to that.

01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:32.000
source of contamination, you may not have another option. You may have to do sub slab and indoor air sampling.

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And then there's other scenarios where

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Maybe you don't even have a building present where you have to rely on modeling.

01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:42.000
That's also discussed in this PVI document.

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Now, as I was saying, you go inside a building and there's a good chance you're going to find these same

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petroleum hydrocarbon showing up in indoor air. In fact, they did some background studies to find that you're going to counter those

01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:58.000
In 90% or more.

01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:04.000
of cases where you're sampling in indoor air. And if we look over here on the right side.

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for constituents like benzene, we can find where these

01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:12.000
concentrations of benzene in background indoor air

01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:18.000
are above like an order of magnitude almost above a 10 to the minus six

01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:23.000
risk level. And it's again it's coming from indoor air sources such as carpets

01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:26.000
paints, wall coverings.

01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:33.000
couch fabrics, all of that acts as a source for these chemicals. So it gets very difficult then to

01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:39.000
tell when you go indoors, where's that source of hydrocarbon vapors? Is it indoors or is it

01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:42.000
below the building foundations.

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And lastly, I'll leave you with in this PVI tech reg, you'll find a lot of great information on how to

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do the sampling for groundwater, soil, soil gas.

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crawl space, indoor air leads you through that and some of the analyses depending on your site conditions.

01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:11.000
look to this PVI tech reg as a good reference on unsampling and analysis.

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And with that, I think we're going to open it up for some questions.

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Yeah, thanks, Matt. And once again, thank you to our

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For questions?

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We are running a little behind our scheduled time, so in order to ensure that we can make it through all of the content, I'm just going to ask the one question.

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that we had that would be of

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an interesting conversation and it just disappeared.

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chat, but it is and tom i think that you're starting with it. And then I think we might have some other folks that want to chime in but

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Yeah, just…

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What is the difference between Dean Apple and El Napple? And can you identify those both for this?

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the audience.

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Right. I covered, thanks, Nicole. I covered this in the beginning under the fundamentals, but LNAPLE is a light non-aqueous phase liquid. In other words, it'll float on water. It's less dense than water.

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A DN apple is denser

01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:10.000
and water so it's a dense non-aqueous phase liquid.

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The difference between the two islnapple, of course, will float on water

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the DNAPA will sink through groundwater and will not stop until it comes to some sort of a barrier

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usually a geologic barrier or an aquatard

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And then move similarly to petroleum in that regard.

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So basically, the difference is in the chemistry

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And a lot of the dean apples are chlorinated hydrocarbons

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like perchloroethylene or trichloroethylene

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And El Napa was going to be a petroleum hydrocarbon, which is a distillate from crude oil.

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without the chlorinated

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attachments.

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That's great. And we did have a written response as well in the Q&A so you can

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you a little bit more. And again, I apologize, but in the interest of time, I'm going to move us forward into the next key message and set up Diana to talk us through the information here.

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And then we'll hopefully have some additional time at the end of the class for the rest of the Q&A, but again.

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You should all be seeing the questions.

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Here in the Q&A as well as the responses. And we hope that those are helpful to you.

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Diana?

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Thank you, Nicole. So I want to start off by hitting on a message that Tom talked about.

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Way up front, which is that TPH is not necessarily total.

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Not necessarily all for petroleum and not necessarily all hydrocarbons.

01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:51.000
So what does that mean? Because it really sounds very contradictory when you listen to it.

01:24:51.000 --> 01:25:00.000
So TPH is really, it's a measurement that we use when we're looking at the potential risk from a site. But the key thing to remember with TPH

01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:07.000
is that the number that the lab reports is really and truly defined by the analytical method that you use to measure it.

01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:11.000
So anytime you get a TPH analytical result, just remember it's an approximation.

01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:15.000
It's an approximate concentration of the total hydrocarbons.

01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:18.000
But what it really is, is that it is

01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:24.000
These analytical methods, by and large, your TPH, especially your bulk TPH methods like your 8015s.

01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:33.000
are doing a global extraction. So it's an extraction and a reporting of all of the organic compounds that can be pulled from that sample.

01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:38.000
That's why we mean that it's not necessarily all hydrocarbons and it's not necessarily all petroleum.

01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:43.000
So what your intent here is to give you information on what you're dealing with.

01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:47.000
But remember, when you get a TPH result, there's some fuzziness in that number.

01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:49.000
So…

01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:59.000
When we say it's very much defined by the method, what I'm showing on this slide is a series of materials that are actually not petroleum at all.

01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:02.000
But they were analyzed by four different TPH methods.

01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:09.000
And what you can see is that there's a significant difference in the result based on the analytical method that was used.

01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:14.000
And so when you're dealing with TPH, it's not a super straightforward analysis.

01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:21.000
You really have to pay attention to what methods your agency specifically requires.

01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:23.000
Because that will dictate the result.

01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:32.000
And you also need to pay attention to exactly what questions you're trying to answer because that may also change the results that you get or the methods that you choose to use.

01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:41.000
So one of the things, again, that we hit on is that when you get a TPH result, it's not all necessarily petroleum hydrocarbons.

01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:49.000
One of the ways that we use to clean that up is something called a silica gel cleanup, which basically means that your sample is run through a silica gel column.

01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:53.000
And non-hydrocarbons are removed from the sample.

01:26:53.000 --> 01:27:02.000
So the chromatograph on the left is showing you basically what we like to call a hump, or you might more technically hear it referred to as UCM, which is an unresolved complex mixture.

01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:08.000
And this basically means that the lab could not distinguish individual compounds. There was just too much going on.

01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:16.000
When you see this hump, that typically is indicating that you probably have a lot of nonpolars or metabolites, or sorry, a lot of polar metabolites in there.

01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:22.000
When you run the silica gel cleanup, though, you can see that once all of the non-hydrocarbons are removed.

01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:27.000
you actually had no true petroleum hydrocarbons in that sample.

01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:32.000
So your silica gel cleanup method really is going to help you distinguish between what really is hydrocarbon

01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:36.000
and what isn't.

01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:43.000
So with the different petroleum methods out there, and there's quite a bit, quite a few, how do you choose which method you want to use?

01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:52.000
Well, really, it comes down to, like I said, the questions you're trying to answer. Your bulk TPH methods like your EPA 8015,

01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:56.000
Texas 1005. Kansas also has bulk methods.

01:27:56.000 --> 01:28:02.000
These are really often used when you're kind of initially assessing your site and trying to determine your overall extent.

01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:06.000
The advantages are they're inexpensive, so you can run a lot of samples.

01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:12.000
But the disadvantage is that they're very likely to over predict what you have there in terms of actual hydrocarbons.

01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:16.000
And you have limited usability with these when it comes to risk assessment.

01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:22.000
Many states and many agencies will have a total TPH number criterion.

01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:28.000
But oftentimes it may not necessarily be a risk-based number, or if it is a risk-based number.

01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:31.000
It's typically based on the most

01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:38.000
conservative calculation of the different types of fractions that could be present in that sample.

01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:42.000
The next thing that you might want to consider is what we call a fractionation analysis.

01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:49.000
A fractionation analysis takes that total bulk TPH method and breaks it down into aliphatics versus aromatics.

01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:55.000
Like Tom mentioned up front and also breaks it down into different carbon chain length fractions.

01:28:55.000 --> 01:29:02.000
So this is where you're going to run like, for instance, your Massachusetts VPH and EPH methods, your Texas 1006 is a fractionation method.

01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:06.000
And the state of Washington has fractionation methods as well.

01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:11.000
These methods are useful because they actually give you more information on what you're dealing with.

01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:17.000
They can better define your actual risk characteristics because we can better target

01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:23.000
the risk values to the individual fractions. The downside is that they're more expensive.

01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:29.000
The other thing to note with fractionation methods is that silica gel is used as part of that fractionation process.

01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:33.000
So they do remove your non-hydrocarbons from the analysis.

01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:39.000
And then last, what we touched on earlier is your silica gel cleanup. This is useful to help you remove your non-hydrocarbons.

01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:45.000
It can help you distinguish whether or not you're dealing with metabolites or your original petroleum product.

01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:53.000
And they can help you with defining what your fate and transport properties are by kind of making some of those distinctions.

01:29:53.000 --> 01:30:02.000
So that was a real quick run through on some of the key things to think about when you're looking at analytical methods for TPH, but the basic thing to keep in mind

01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:08.000
is that your method is giving you information on your distribution of TPH, the size of the hydrocarbons.

01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:12.000
Particularly if you look at the chromatograms and you can see those breakdowns.

01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:17.000
But the key things to remember is that the result is going to vary by the analytical method you use to use it.

01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:27.000
It also could potentially vary from lab to lab because different labs will use that different internal standards to calibrate their instruments.

01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:31.000
If you suddenly switch labs in the middle of your investigation.

01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:35.000
Don't be surprised if your TPH results don't look the same anymore.

01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:42.000
And again, it could also include your non-hydrocarbons. So the thing to remember is your TPH analytical result

01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:51.000
It's not necessarily total. It's not necessarily all petroleum and it's not necessarily all hydrocarbons.

01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:58.000
So moving from your analysis, we want to talk about actually how you're going to use some of that data and how the composition of the fuel

01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:00.000
assesses the risk.

01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:02.000
of your petroleum.

01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:10.000
So looking at this one thing, the first thing that I have up here is an example of three different chromatograms.

01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:15.000
that all showed a TPH result of 15,000 milligrams per kilogram.

01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:21.000
But if you look at the individual chromatographs, you can see that the one on the far left, which is your gasoline.

01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:28.000
is far heavier populated on the lower end of the spectrum. Your lighter end compounds are here.

01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:31.000
As opposed to diesel fuel, which is much more populated in the middle.

01:31:31.000 --> 01:31:37.000
And as opposed to crude, which has got a pretty good distinction across the whole spectrum.

01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:39.000
What this really means

01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:48.000
is that depending upon what product you're dealing with, you will have a very different risk profile, even though your TPH number is exactly the same.

01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:54.000
This is why we tell you that when you're trying to use a bulk TPH method, it's going to have limited usability.

01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:57.000
from a risk assessment standard because

01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:02.000
the information behind that number really can dictate a whole lot in terms of potential exposure

01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:06.000
and potential toxicity.

01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:13.000
So I'm going to revisit a slide that Matt had up there earlier when he was talking about conceptual site standards, or sorry, conceptual site

01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:21.000
models. And the reason I want to revisit this is because this really touches on a key point when you're doing risk assessment with TPH.

01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:26.000
And that is coming back to the idea that TPH is a complex mixture, which means

01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:32.000
In different parts of your site, you're going to have different ratios of compounds present. For instance.

01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:34.000
When you get up near the source.

01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:36.000
you're going to be predominantly LNABL.

01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:49.000
As you get into the vapor phase, you're going to be you're going to have a lot of vapor, but you also will have some sorbed and some dissolved. And I'm sorry, I didn't mean vapor phase. I mean, when you get up into the soil column.

01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:51.000
As you move down gradient.

01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:56.000
you're going to have more hydrocarbons and you're going to have more metabolites most likely.

01:32:56.000 --> 01:32:58.000
So what does this mean from a risk standpoint?

01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:04.000
It means that you can't collect your data from one spot and assume that it's going to accurately represent your risk across the entire site.

01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:10.000
You really need to make sure that you're collecting data from the areas where you have potential exposures.

01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:17.000
And the other thing that you need to keep in mind is goes back to something Steve was talking about with the biodegradation.

01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:22.000
The ratios of compounds will change over time.

01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:28.000
So if you're looking at old data, it may not give you an accurate representation of what your current risks look like.

01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:33.000
So make sure that you're collecting your method to accurately evaluate the different pathways

01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:39.000
the different areas of your site and the different timeframes that you're dealing with.

01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:45.000
The next thing I want to touch at in terms of TPH complexities when it comes to risk assessment is looking at toxicity.

01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:47.000
So…

01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:58.000
Coming up with toxicity values for a complex mixture of compounds isn't necessarily straightforward. And there's a few different things that have happened over time and that are still being used today.

01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:04.000
One of them is what we call this individual compound approach, which is basically where you focus your entire risk assessment

01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:09.000
on target compounds, which would typically be your BTECs and your PAHs.

01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:16.000
And this allows you to really assess what your carcinogenic risks are because those are the compounds you're looking at there.

01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:21.000
And it allows you to assess your risk from some of the key chemicals

01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:27.000
But in some cases, particularly if you have a highly weathered situation.

01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:30.000
they may not actually accurately capture accurately

01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:37.000
the entire site risk because you're missing essentially you're missing the aliphatic phase on this one.

01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:41.000
Another option is to use what we call whole product toxicity values.

01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:47.000
And what this means is that there actually are toxicity values out there for things like mineral oil.

01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:49.000
And JP4, et cetera.

01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:57.000
So it seems like that would be great, but the downside is that those toxicity values are based on fresh product and are based on a particular fresh product.

01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:02.000
And so your chemical distribution may not be identical for different

01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:06.000
products. And once the product ages

01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:09.000
then it no longer looks the same as it did when it was whole.

01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:14.000
So you're trying to use a whole product toxicity value is going to be limited in utility

01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:18.000
to really when you have a very fresh spell and you know exactly what was spilled.

01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:24.000
The most common method and the method that we tend to rely on is what we call a fractionation and a surrogate method.

01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:29.000
It means that your lab has broken down your TPH result into individual fractions.

01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:35.000
So you've got your aliphatic fraction separated from your aerobic, and you've got it broken down into

01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:37.000
to distinct carbet chain lengths

01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:42.000
And then within each of these carbon chain lengths and aromatic versus aliphatic.

01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:50.000
a surrogate chemical has been assigned in order to try to accurately represent the toxicity of that particular fraction.

01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:55.000
This at the moment is really probably the most accurate way we have to assess risk from TPH.

01:35:55.000 --> 01:36:02.000
So that's what you'll commonly see used if you're going to be doing a risk assessment on a TPH site.

01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:04.000
One thing to note, though.

01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:09.000
Different agencies have different analytical methods like we touched on earlier.

01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:17.000
And similarly, different agencies will have different fractionation breakdowns that line up best with their method.

01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:27.000
So when you're doing risk assessment, you need to make sure that you're very clear on using an analytical method that is appropriate for the agency that has jurisdiction over your site.

01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:29.000
And it accurately reflects accurately reflects

01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:38.000
The toxicity values that are being used to calculate the screening levels for that particular agency.

01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:44.000
So having touched on some of those things, one of the things that we proposed when we put together the TPH risk document

01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:50.000
was a tiered approach. And we feel like TPH really lends itself well to this because

01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:54.000
Your tier one is essentially what we call your screening level risk assessment.

01:36:54.000 --> 01:37:02.000
And that is really where you may be looking at things like you may be early in your process. You may only have bulk TPH data.

01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:11.000
And so you can do a very generalized evaluation. Now, if you have both TPH data and it happens to fall below your state's bulk TPH screening lessons.

01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:13.000
Great, you may be done.

01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:22.000
But oftentimes that's not going to happen because your bulk TPH number encompasses a lot of different ranges of carbon chain length ranges.

01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:31.000
And your TPH rescreening level, particularly if it's risk-based, tends to be based on the most conservative of those ranges.

01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:47.000
So in those cases, that'll lead you to a tier two or tier three, which is more site specific. You'll probably be using fractionation data and you'll be able to get a much better understanding of what your actual site risks are based on what you have present at your site.

01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:55.000
So the last thing I want to sum up here is kind of what we're dealing with when we're trying to assess risk from TPH. And the first thing to keep in mind

01:37:55.000 --> 01:38:00.000
is it's not a single chemical. It's a complex mixture. So you have to take into account

01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:05.000
the behavior of that mixture over time and as it moves through the environment.

01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:11.000
And those fate and transport properties are going to affect how you're going to assess your risk

01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:15.000
Where you're going to want to collect data and what kind of data you're going to want to collect.

01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:23.000
Because there are many different types of TPH data that does lend itself to kind of a tiered approach like we talked about.

01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:30.000
But the real true key here is that you have to understand your analytical data. You really want to have a good understanding of your conceptual site model.

01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:36.000
And the regulatory framework, the agency that has jurisdiction over your site is absolutely critical.

01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:41.000
and accurately and appropriately assessing the risk from a site.

01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:50.000
So with that, I'm going to hand it over to Lloyd, who can talk about risk management.

01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:57.000
Okay, let's wrap this up by talking about risk management.

01:38:57.000 --> 01:39:02.000
So…

01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:05.000
Now let's talk about what are you going to do to address it?

01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:09.000
What are your risk management options?

01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:13.000
So what are you going to do about it? Now, once you have a good CSM,

01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:19.000
You can then decide what are your options to address any petroleum risk that you have.

01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:21.000
Now you can collect additional data

01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:25.000
to help you decide which risk management option do you want to pursue.

01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:30.000
Or you may decide that you want to choose a remedial action for El Napple

01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:33.000
Or does all face concerns.

01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:35.000
Now, if you have migrating nail an apple.

01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:39.000
An option may be an option

01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:44.000
maybe that you could decide on placing

01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:47.000
a barrier wall or an engineering control

01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:50.000
If you have a PVI concern, you can select

01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:54.000
An active or passive system to manage the risk.

01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:57.000
Or you could decide that placing institutional controls

01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:05.000
will be more appropriate. Now, the ITRC guidance document in the references are excellent documents to help you decide

01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:08.000
What risk management options that you may want to consider.

01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:19.000
Now, the ITRC guidance documents will take you through the process to select the best option.

01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:25.000
Okay, so first you need to clarify exactly what is your LNAPA concern.

01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:29.000
Is it a risk concern such as benzene in the groundwater?

01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:35.000
Then you have a composition goal because benzene exists in the petroleum.

01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:38.000
Now, if you're ill and ample concern is a migration.

01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:45.000
Then your goal could be to address El Napple saturation.

01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:48.000
The same will be if your concern is with the mobile

01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:51.000
Or residual LNAPA.

01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:53.000
The goal will be to address composition

01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:57.000
or L-Nample saturation.

01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:02.000
Now, in some cases, you may have an aesthetic concern

01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:04.000
Such as a hydrocarbon odor.

01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:08.000
Or El Napo stained soils.

01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:11.000
That would be handled on a site-specific basis

01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:16.000
As explained on the next slide.

01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:20.000
So let's talk about these remedial goals in more detail.

01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:23.000
Now, if you have a saturation goal

01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:27.000
An objective would be to reduce the El Napple mass.

01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:29.000
Or recover the El Napple.

01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:33.000
An example would be to stop El Naval migration

01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:39.000
By installing a barrier wall or reducing open apple saturation by recovering ill napple.

01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:42.000
Now, if you have a composition goal.

01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:45.000
The objective would be the Aleen apple phase change

01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:50.000
An example would be to reduce the benzene concentration in the elen apple

01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:54.000
or subsurface soils or groundwater.

01:41:54.000 --> 01:42:00.000
Now, if you have an aesthetic goal, you could eliminate the cause of the concern

01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:03.000
An example would be to remove Elena stained soils

01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:06.000
Even though it's not creating a risk.

01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:15.000
Or another example would be stopping the elk apple from seeping into soils along a river.

01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:19.000
Okay, so when you've identified your concerns

01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:22.000
And then selected your remedial goals

01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:30.000
Then you can go to the ITRC Hill Napple guidance document if you want to install a remedial technology.

01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:35.000
It will list several types of remedial technologies that we show here.

01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:39.000
in a process of how to select a technology.

01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:44.000
Now, the remedial technologies are grouped in three remedial groups.

01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:46.000
that align with your goal.

01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:49.000
Now, phase change technologies are on the top

01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:53.000
Mass recovery technologies are on the left.

01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:58.000
And mask control technologies are on the right.

01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:03.000
Now within the circles, you will see a list of different types of remedial technologies.

01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:08.000
Now, all of these are thoroughly explained in the ITRC LNAPA guidance

01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:13.000
document. So now you will know where to go to learn about technology

01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:17.000
And what that may be able to do, what it may be able to accomplish

01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:23.000
Now you can see some remedial technologies fit into more than one grouping.

01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:26.000
For example, in the center of all three circles.

01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:30.000
Multiphase extraction, or MPE,

01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:32.000
can address your goals of phase change

01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:36.000
mass recovery and mass control.

01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:38.000
That is why it is a technology

01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:42.000
that is frequently used.

01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:44.000
now each

01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:49.000
Remedial technology selected requires alignment with key stakeholders.

01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:52.000
On performance metrics and endpoints.

01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:56.000
Preferably before the remedy is installed.

01:43:56.000 --> 01:44:00.000
Now, understanding rates of natural attenuation are key

01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:08.000
to ensuring that the remedy is performing optimally and sustainably. You've heard about that in the last couple of hours.

01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:15.000
So in addition, it is important to understand what metrics will be used to assess your performance.

01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:20.000
Now, each remedial technology also requires alignment

01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:25.000
With key stakeholders on what criteria will be used to define when the remedy

01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:28.000
is no longer beneficial.

01:44:28.000 --> 01:44:32.000
It is time to either transition to another active remedy

01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:38.000
or NSCD or moderate natural attenuation or even a no further action.

01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:43.000
Now, transition thresholds and validation assessments can help here

01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:57.000
Now, new guidance coming from ASTM on advancing the corrective action sites to closure has compiled some examples of performance metrics and endpoints which are presented on the next couple of slides.

01:44:57.000 --> 01:45:01.000
Now, as you've been told, the ASTM document is currently in draft

01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:05.000
and is due out soon. So make sure and watch out for it.

01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:08.000
Now the endpoints need to be set up front.

01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:14.000
So you will know when the technology has met its endpoint.

01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:23.000
Now, once the endpoint has reached for the technology, the technology should be transitioned to another more appropriate technology

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Based upon the new and current hill napple or your chemical of concern conditions.

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At this point, you should address whether you have validated your cleanup goals

01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:40.000
And your concerns have been addressed.

01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:48.000
So let's talk about performance metrics. Now, you don't need to read all of these. I just want to show you some examples of some of these. There's a lot of them.

01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:53.000
So all of these and more are found in the ITRC LNAPA guidance document.

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And the ASTM document.

01:45:56.000 --> 01:46:01.000
So let's take a look at the upper system related metric on the left.

01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:03.000
If you've set a metric.

01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:09.000
that when the chemical of concern has been reduced to a certain level.

01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:11.000
In the influence of your remediation system.

01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:15.000
And no further reductions are occurring

01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:20.000
then that remediation system should be transitioned to another system

01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:25.000
Or decide if you have reached an endpoint for the site.

01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:28.000
On the subsurface side on the right.

01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:36.000
If you set a metric that when your remediation goal has reduced groundwater concentrations in the subsurface to a certain level.

01:46:36.000 --> 01:46:41.000
And your remedial system is no longer reducing the concentrations in the groundwater.

01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:45.000
The NAS system should be transitioned to another system

01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:50.000
Or decide if you've reached the endpoint for even using their system.

01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:58.000
So you can see there are multiple ways to look at performance metrics

01:46:58.000 --> 01:47:01.000
So take examples of some endpoints here.

01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:07.000
Now, the ACM guidance document helps define the endpoints.

01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:12.000
They're also broken out into what is a saturation concern

01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:16.000
and those that relate to a composition concern.

01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:23.000
Now, finally, you want to make sure and set realistic endpoints for your remediation technology.

01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:29.000
If you reach the endpoint for the technology that you've predetermined upfront

01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:34.000
Further ill naple recovery will not be effective with that technology.

01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:40.000
Now here are several endpoints found in the ITRC LNAPA guidance document.

01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:45.000
And also the ASTM document. So let's take a look at a few.

01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:49.000
The first one is to understand the amount of ale napple

01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:54.000
that can effectively be recovered from the subsurface.

01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:57.000
Now, as we talked about, not all the elton apple

01:47:57.000 --> 01:48:01.000
Especially residual ale napple can be removed

01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:03.000
Unless you dig it all out.

01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:09.000
Now, if a transmissivity is below the threshold of 0.1 to 0.8,

01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:14.000
Feed squared per day. And further, Elenample recovery is extremely limited

01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:16.000
Or not even possible.

01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:19.000
So you are wasting your money by continuing.

01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:23.000
Unless you transition to another system.

01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:27.000
Now, another endpoint is a decline curve analysis.

01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:30.000
If the LNAP removal from the active system

01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:32.000
He was approaching asymptotic.

01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:34.000
or recovery is limited.

01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:39.000
But your greenhouse gas emissions that are produced operate the system are substantial.

01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:42.000
You should transition to another remedial system.

01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:47.000
Or you could decide if you've met your goals for El Napa mass removal.

01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:57.000
Just refer back to the ITRC document and the ASTN document to make sure you've set realistic endpoints.

01:48:57.000 --> 01:48:59.000
Something that is specific.

01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:02.000
measurable, achievable.

01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:04.000
realistic and time bound.

01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:12.000
Now, these are called smart objectives.

01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:17.000
So let's go over a summary of what we've been talking about in the last couple of hours.

01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:21.000
The characterization of TPH in the LNAPL and PVI

01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:23.000
It's an integrated approach.

01:49:23.000 --> 01:49:27.000
that starts with your CSM.

01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:30.000
So key messages from the TPH.

01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:35.000
Like Diana talked about, TPH is defined by the analysis you do.

01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:38.000
An analysis characterizes the nature and extent

01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:42.000
And whether biodegradation is occurring.

01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:45.000
plus the presence of petroleum metabolites.

01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:49.000
Now the type of TPH analysis depends on the site investigation.

01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:51.000
Whether you're doing fractionated

01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:56.000
Or results from your associated toxicity values

01:49:56.000 --> 01:49:58.000
Therefore, can qualify

01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:01.000
human risk.

01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:03.000
Now, the Elen Apple key messages.

01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:07.000
El Napple is a source of long-term vapor.

01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:09.000
sorbed and dissolved phases.

01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:15.000
An elound apple can be present in soil pores even though it's not visible in your wells.

01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:18.000
And like.

01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:26.000
it was mentioned, L-napple bodies typically stabilize really quick.

01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:34.000
Also, mobile and wells does not mean that the El Napple body is migrating or even recoverable.

01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:38.000
The only apple thickness in wells is affected by your soil type.

01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:41.000
And your water table fluctuations, as we saw in the video

01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:46.000
And the El Napa Hydrogeologic condition.

01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:53.000
Bar degradation processes to place your own apple source mass and help stabilize your own apple bodies.

01:50:53.000 --> 01:50:59.000
And your remedial technology selection is based on your concern, your saturation, your composition.

01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:04.000
And your static values.

01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:08.000
Here's the key message for PVI.

01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:15.000
Fiber degradation in the VATO zone limits or the potential of PVI and serves as the basis for lateral

01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:18.000
and vertical screening distances.

01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:25.000
And PVI are mainly associated with gasoline.

01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:30.000
And the proper identification of residual LNAPL sources is critical.

01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:34.000
Remember what we talked about sources in the home.

01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:37.000
Side characterization should focus on the fatal zone

01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:49.000
given a high likelihood that encountering gasoline related COCs in indoor air above the risk-based screening levels.

01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:55.000
Okay, I turn it back.

01:51:55.000 --> 01:52:03.000
Yeah, thanks, Lloyd. And thank you to all of our trainers today, including those that were in the background, keeping up with the

01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:08.000
question and answers, it's always great when we can answer over 30 questions for you guys.

01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:12.000
during the conversation we have here.

01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:24.000
So let's ask a couple more questions. I did just drop. I am going to put into the chat for you guys the feedback form and the link that's on the slide.

01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:34.000
I also want to mention that I will preview briefly for you that we do have some extra slides here at the end. You can download these slides.

01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:42.000
on the CLUIN training page that you came to today, scroll to the bottom and it should be under the materials link.

01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:48.000
But we did include some references for you to maintain.

01:52:48.000 --> 01:53:01.000
for your references. And I think the question that we're going to there were two that were very popular that we continued to kind of respond to in different ways. So Diana, I'm going to set you up first to talk a little bit about

01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:07.000
the conversation that was going on in the Q&A about silica gel cleanup.

01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:13.000
Thanks, Nicole. So the question that came in, and we've gotten this question a couple of times today, was

01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:19.000
Is it a good practice to just start your investigation right off the bat by using a silica gel cleanup method?

01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:25.000
And that's not necessarily a super straightforward answer. And the reason I say that is

01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:31.000
Number one, you need to check with the agency that has jurisdiction over your site because they may have specific requirements

01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:35.000
that you start with a more generalized bulk TPH method.

01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:38.000
But the other thing in general, too, to think about is

01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:45.000
Usually when we're doing an investigation, our goal is to get the best understanding of the conceptual site model that we possibly can.

01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:50.000
And really the best way to do that using some of the bulk TPH methods is to run them both ways.

01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:55.000
To run it with and without silica gel cleanup so you can get an understanding of

01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:59.000
what portion of your sample is hydrocarbon versus

01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:02.000
what portion may be your metabolites.

01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:11.000
And the answers to those questions really can help dictate and help you get a better understanding of what kind of transport properties you're dealing with.

01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:13.000
Because the metabolites are more mobile.

01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:19.000
And we'll also let you get a better handle of what your overall risk is from the petroleum component.

01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:22.000
of your

01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:29.000
of your sample. Just to hit on that a little bit, there really aren't toxicity values available for most of the metabolites.

01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:37.000
So when you do assess risk using a non-silica gel cleanup sample, you're treating your metabolites as if they were the same as petroleum.

01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:43.000
So that's another reason why it's good to get that distinction between what is metabolite versus what is petroleum.

01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:45.000
I hope that answered the question.

01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:52.000
It's not necessarily an all or none type of answer. You really do kind of have to look at your site and your agency.

01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:54.000
Great day, and thank you.

01:54:54.000 --> 01:55:02.000
And then we also had several questions come in about kind of state guidance and regulatory actions.

01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:09.000
I'm not sure which trainer responded last. Maybe it was Laura that would like to come out from the background.

01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:10.000
Oh, sure.

01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:18.000
Call you out on that one and just speak to us a little bit about kind of ITRC guidance and the state regulations.

01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:31.000
Sure, absolutely. Hey, everyone. So yeah, as a practicing risk assessor, you know, every state is different in the way that they have their TPH guidance. You know, they may not even have TPH guidance.

01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:38.000
But what's more important is that when you're working on a study in your specific state or regulating agency.

01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:45.000
you likely would have to follow those. So there's evolving information that you would maybe want to make sure you have

01:55:45.000 --> 01:56:02.000
in your back pocket when dealing with that. So, you know, I wouldn't recommend one guidance over another because you might have to actually, you know, work within a state guidance or a state regulating agency. So it's kind of a gray area. I don't really have any specific

01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:07.000
answers, but just you know consulting your state guidance that your site is in is probably the best

01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:08.000
place to start.

01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:15.000
The other thing I'm going to supplement what Laura said is that one of the things that really is probably the key when you're doing a TPH assessment

01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:22.000
is making sure that you're using an analytical method that matches your screening levels.

01:56:22.000 --> 01:56:28.000
And that's the other reason why it's very important to make sure that you have a handle on what jurisdiction you're working in.

01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:34.000
And using the documents and the methods for that jurisdiction because different methods were developed.

01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:37.000
with different screening levels in mind.

01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:42.000
So it's really just kind of key to make sure those match as well.

01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:57.000
That's great. And as a reminder, this was kind of the introduction to hydrocarbons. ITRC does have in-depth classes on all three of these topics. I have put the link to our list of archive trainings where you can go and find

01:56:57.000 --> 01:57:02.000
additional trainings just specific to all three of these

01:57:02.000 --> 01:57:08.000
hydrocarbons that we've talked about today. In addition to the hydrocarbons workshop

01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:13.000
that was put together as a series in 2022.

01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:20.000
And that link is here on the slide. So much more training and resources available from ITRC on this topic.

01:57:20.000 --> 01:57:23.000
But with that, I'll remind you that I've also put

01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:33.000
The link to the feedback form in the chat here as well. And we encourage you to go provide some feedback to us. And again, at the bottom of the

01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:42.000
form in the bottom right hand corner check the box to certify that you participated and your certificate of completion will be emailed to you.

01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:48.000
Thank you so much. If you have any other questions or follow up, please email ITRC at itrcweb.org.

01:57:48.000 --> 01:58:18.000
And we look forward to having you join us for another ITRC training in 2025. Thank you, everybody.
