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Our session is 51 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 being recorded walk through import reminders at the end of the session including 52 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 how you can access the slides, get a certificate and get to the recording. 53 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 We've all been a virtual work environment for some time. 54 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 I'm sure this is a familiar interface for those connecting through zoom. For 55 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 those who may not be familiar with zoom, a quick reminder what 56 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 I highlighted in the lower left. Audio controls, you will see the main 57 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 presentation content appear on the large portion of your screen and you will 58 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 see live speaker videos on the site as we go through a presentation. 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With those brief technical reminders and noting we 68 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 are using 69 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 zoom which will allow people's visuals, names and voice to be heard by others 70 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 and as we go through our questions that information may be captured as part of 71 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 the recording. 72 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.000 That's the end of the technical reminders I have for today. I will ask our next 73 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:07.000 speaker who will be joining us to turn on his camera so I can share his video 74 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:10.000 with all of you and provide a quick introduction. We will be joined by Kent 75 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:15.000 Glover who is coming from the U.S. Air Force civil engineering center. He has 76 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:19.000 been involved in groundwater mediation since 77 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:22.000 the early 1980s. He's the Air Force subject matter expert for remediation 78 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:25.000 systems 79 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:29.000 and provides technical leadership and remedy selection, implementation, 80 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:35.000 performance evaluation and optimization. He provides expertise and numerical 81 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:40.000 modeling and remediation of [Indiscernible] liquids. I know you 82 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:45.000 have some 83 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:47.000 opening remarks to share. I think I will turn it over to you so you can begin 84 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:50.000 the session. 85 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:55.000 >> Thank you. I want to welcome everybody that's attending the webinar today. 86 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:58.000 And hope you come away with this webinar feeling you have learned something and 87 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:04.000 contributed 88 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:12.000 as well. The title of the webinar is I don't remember if Jean Balent 89 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:15.000 mentioned. FRTR 30 years, grand challenges and opportunities for advancing 90 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:19.000 remediation technologies. I want to make a few comments. 91 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:22.000 It's someone unusual format we will follow today. Next week during the second 92 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:25.000 session of the 93 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:30.000 spring meeting, when FRTR 94 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:36.000 stood up 30 years ago the senior leadership of the agency recognize that need 95 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:41.000 to exchange technical information and challenges and identify common ground and 96 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:44.000 advanced mediation technologies. A charter was prepared 97 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:51.000 and it's been our guide for the last 98 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:57.000 several decades. The world 99 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:04.000 doesn't standstill. Our understanding of contaminants is 100 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:07.000 evolving. New contaminants are on the horizon and we've come to recognize many 101 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:10.000 of our sites and cleanup challenges are highly complex. Agency funding 102 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:13.000 priorities have changed and even the way 103 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:17.000 we communicate and share information has changed in the last 30 years. This 104 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:23.000 webinar is one example 105 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:28.000 of that. I would need to share technical challenges and identify common ground 106 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.000 and collaborate to advanced technology hasn't gone away. It's probably 107 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:35.000 increased. It's 108 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:39.000 appropriate for us to go back to her senior leadership and that's what we've 109 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:43.000 done today and refocus 110 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:48.000 the organization on today's challenges and the challenges on the horizon for 111 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:54.000 each of our agencies. We all have our 112 00:02:54.000 --> 00:03:00.000 unique perspective but also seek common ground on how to address these 113 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:03.000 technical challenges and meet the needs of the agencies. And collaborate 114 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:06.000 in advancing 115 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:12.000 the technology 116 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.000 and transfer. What we have for a format today in a week from today is somewhat 117 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:20.000 unusual and a deviation from 118 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:25.000 past years. We focus on a single technical 119 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:33.000 topic usually. Today if we can go to the 120 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:38.000 next slide that brings us to some meeting objectives for today and a week 121 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:42.000 from today. You can read them 122 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:46.000 here. Today we will focus on trying to understand 123 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:51.000 what the agencies challenges are. With the 124 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:56.000 needs are. With the role of FRTR may be addressing 125 00:03:56.000 --> 00:04:02.000 those challenges and that kind of thing. We have a panel of distinguished senior 126 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:10.000 level leaders of our agencies who have been willing and gracious to participate 127 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:16.000 in that discussion and Greg will be moderating that in a bit. A week from today 128 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:22.000 session 2 will focus more on advancing ways that 129 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:29.000 FRTR can help the agencies to 130 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:34.000 advance technology and promote technology transfer and information exchange. I 131 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:42.000 hope you look forward to that. Before we get started, slide number three or the 132 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:45.000 next number. I want to acknowledge the 133 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:49.000 FRTR steering committee. This 134 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:55.000 has been an effort to put 135 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:58.000 this webinar together because of many moving parts. A lot 136 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:01.000 of people, schedules and 137 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:07.000 conflicts. In general the 138 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:10.000 steering committee has proven to be the heart and soul of this organization and 139 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:16.000 this organization could 140 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:20.000 not do nearly what we have been able to do without them. I want to list them 141 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:23.000 here. You can read them off and see which representative 142 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:26.000 of your agency is on the 143 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:31.000 steering committee. It's a good group to work 144 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:34.000 with. They really personify the mission of this organization. When we meet they 145 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:40.000 leave their ego at 146 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:44.000 the door and listen carefully to one another even though they 147 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:50.000 come from agencies with different perspectives 148 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:53.000 and needs. We really listen to each other and see to find that common ground and 149 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:59.000 find a way we can collaborate and move forward. 150 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:03.000 It's a pleasure working with these people. I want to acknowledge them for 151 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:08.000 this meeting. I 152 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:11.000 want to acknowledge Heather Henry from and 153 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:13.000 I HS and Tonya who 154 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:20.000 have led 155 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:26.000 the preparing and all the behind the scenes work that has gone into white you 156 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:29.000 will see. I hope you appreciate it. I have appreciated what Heather and Tonya 157 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:38.000 have done. I think 158 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:42.000 with that, I will pass this off to our first speaker who is Tom 159 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:45.000 Nicholson. Tom is the senior technical adviser 160 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:50.000 for radio nuclear 161 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:55.000 transport environment. 162 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:58.000 -- He's been with an RC for 163 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:03.000 44 years 164 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:08.000 with project and management rules. Emphasizing training and 165 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:11.000 research work. He holds a BS from 166 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:16.000 Penn State 167 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:22.000 in geology and a Masters in hydrogeology from Stanford. He's 168 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:27.000 a registered professional geologist, 169 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:32.000 hydrogeologist and he's a member of several professional organizations. He's 170 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:35.000 been a member of the FRTR steering committee for many years . He has been an 171 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:38.000 asset to 172 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:44.000 that 173 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:50.000 organization and if you have the opportunity to work 174 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:55.000 with Tom you will come away with the experience better for and I think 175 00:07:55.000 --> 00:08:02.000 your product will be better for his input and participation. He's a pleasure to 176 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:07.000 work with. Tom, I will turn it over to you and Tom will talk today and help us 177 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:10.000 focus on what our goals are here today in 178 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:14.000 this webinar. The presentation 179 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:18.000 is entitled 180 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:22.000 introductions to grand challenge sessions. 181 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:25.000 >> Thank you. I appreciate that discussion that you've had up to this point. I 182 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:31.000 want 183 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:36.000 to knowledge that Kent is that co-author 184 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.000 along with Dan whose chief of the technology integration and innovation branch. 185 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:41.000 On 186 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:47.000 our meeting 187 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:50.000 and presented and talked on efforts here perspective of innovative technologies 188 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:56.000 for successful 189 00:08:56.000 --> 00:09:00.000 site remediation. The office 190 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:06.000 of technology innovation at EPA was founded 191 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:09.000 and implemented the 1980 super fun law and its amended act. The advocates for 192 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:12.000 this new 193 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:17.000 technology for cleanup sites focused on 194 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:21.000 contaminated cleanup groundwater assessment remediation. An 195 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:25.000 important topic decision support tools 196 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:33.000 for decision-making. Optimization tools 197 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:39.000 and nanotechnology. After the office of technology innovation 198 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:44.000 was founded, the colleagues at EPA to establish the federal remediation 199 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:47.000 technology Roundtable of 1990 and if you go to the FRTR 200 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:51.000 website and look at 201 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:54.000 last meeting you can go into a lot of the history and details. The organization 202 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:58.000 was started 203 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:04.000 by EPA, DOE and Department of defense services 204 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:09.000 Air Force Navy and Army. It was to look at innovative technologies for a cleanup 205 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:12.000 and remediation. 206 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:19.000 The members as 207 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:26.000 Kent mentioned in the department of defense services, Army, Navy, Air Force, 208 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:29.000 EPA, the ill we and its labs. DOE has that remarkable job 209 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:33.000 in cleanup. The Department 210 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:36.000 of Interior, the Department of Transportation is a new member. 211 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:42.000 NASA and 212 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:47.000 FRTR and the national Institute of environmental health sciences. 213 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:50.000 Next slide. One thing I wanted to focus on that would help you the listener is 214 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:58.000 to go to the 215 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:03.000 FRTR website. If you go to the website, you will see not only is there a 216 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.000 tremendous amount of information but also interactive. If you go to the left 217 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:10.000 side column, you will see technology screening matrix. 218 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:13.000 This is an interactive friendly tool for screening potential 219 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:19.000 applicable technologies for 220 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:26.000 remediation projects. The matrix allows you to screen 49 Institute and exit to 221 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:28.000 technologies for soil or groundwater remediation. Variables 222 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:32.000 include contaminants and 223 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:41.000 contaminate classes of halogenated and non-halogenated 224 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:46.000 organic compound fields and organics nuclides, emissions and contaminants. 225 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:52.000 Their development status of these new 226 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:55.000 innovative remediation techniques, the overall costs 227 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:59.000 cleanup time information on each technology is 228 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:02.000 also available including direct links to the database of cost and performance 229 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:08.000 written by the FRTR 230 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:11.000 members. Next item down. Across the performance case studies the member agency, 231 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:16.000 FRTR have worked together to make data 232 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:20.000 widely available on real experiences and lessons learned in selecting and 233 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:24.000 implementing treatment and characterization technology to 234 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:29.000 clean up soil and 235 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:32.000 groundwater contamination. 236 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:35.000 The remediation case study reports describe the performance and cost of 237 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:42.000 technology applications at full scale and large-scale demonstration projects. 238 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:46.000 Finally I will talk about decision support matrix. This is a 239 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:52.000 website provided to allow you to have 240 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:55.000 access to software tools that can be used as part of a structure decision-making 241 00:12:55.000 --> 00:13:01.000 process for environmental 242 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:04.000 site cleanup. Modeling is one of those items. We developed just recently 243 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:10.000 a publication, a bibliography on guidance 244 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:21.000 for modeling of contamination and 245 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:29.000 remediation sites. A companion website is the CLU-IN. This 246 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:36.000 is valuable because it provides direct access for training and when we 247 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:40.000 have had FRTR meetings in the past we've identified some of the best 248 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:43.000 presentations and created special FRTR 249 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:46.000 present seminars and discuss remediation strategies and initiatives 250 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.000 and identified these 251 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:52.000 training opportunities. This is an important website for you to go to and find 252 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:56.000 out more. 253 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:00.000 It describes 254 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:02.000 a clearinghouse of the technologies, contaminants, issues and initiatives. The 255 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:08.000 technology development tools and 256 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:13.000 training events. When you look at the source 257 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.000 of the contamination there are a variety of remedies. One of the things in the 258 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:21.000 circular decision document 30 259 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:27.000 there's both treatment of the source itself. This has advanced dramatically over 260 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:34.000 the years. With regard to the 261 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:38.000 ground water strategies initially one of the most popular 97 % of the 262 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:41.000 technology was pump and treat. You can see over 263 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:44.000 the years these methods which were innovative at the time at the beginning of 264 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:49.000 that FRTR now become 265 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:53.000 more common -- commonly used. We 266 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:59.000 have both 267 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:01.000 [Indiscernible] and [Indiscernible] has become an issue to think about and DOE 268 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:04.000 has developed 269 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:10.000 and 270 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:13.000 enhanced approach. One of the priorities we 271 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:17.000 have identified 272 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:23.000 for the FRTR and where we would like to 273 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:26.000 begin thinking about changes. One of them is the technologies 274 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:29.000 have developed over the last few years and improving conceptual models of 275 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:31.000 understanding the 276 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:34.000 site and 277 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:37.000 the configuration both natural and engineered and how that system needs to be 278 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:40.000 characterized 279 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:44.000 and modeled. Also following up 280 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:47.000 on optimizing remediation. May be a series of remediation techniques not just 281 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:53.000 one. One of the 282 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:56.000 emerging techniques for the treatment of emerging 283 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:59.000 contaminants, I taught two sections 284 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:04.000 for with 285 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:09.000 PFAS and is an important issue and many sites. We want to look 286 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:17.000 at advances in remediation technologies for heavy metals and radio nucleotides 287 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:21.000 in soil, sediments, and water including those used at mine site. What kind of 288 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:28.000 mutual understanding of subsurface modeling and visualization capabilities 289 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.000 and limitations. This is also evolving. What are the web-based strategies for 290 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:36.000 improving technology transfer among technical experts. You can read about this 291 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:39.000 in our 30 year anniversary fact sheet at the FRTR 292 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:43.000 website. The address is there at 293 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:48.000 the bottom. For today's session and on 294 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:54.000 the 26, we thought about having a special turn one meeting asking the senior 295 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.000 leaders of the FRTR member agencies what are the brand challenges that your 296 00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:03.000 agency faces regarding remediation over the 297 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:07.000 next decade ? Specifically looking at contaminant source and site 298 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:13.000 characterization, emerging contaminants and remedy resilience under evolving 299 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:16.000 dramatic conditions. What are your agencies remediation technology needs or 300 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:23.000 research gaps for 301 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:27.000 these issues? Are there other key issues not captured above? That will be 302 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:35.000 today's session. On 303 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:39.000 the 26, we want to think about advancing new technologies. What are the main 304 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:45.000 barriers to advancing application 305 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.000 of innovative remediation approaches from your agencies perspective? Do you have 306 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:53.000 recommendations for 307 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:57.000 overcoming these barriers and or incentivizing new technology application? Are 308 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:00.000 you aware of any promising new remediation technologies on the horizon? 309 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:04.000 We also look at innovative and 310 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:07.000 coordination. The initiatives are there strategic remediation 311 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:11.000 initiatives/programs underway 312 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:16.000 in your 313 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:18.000 agency for advancing site cleanups? Are you aware of resources, opportunities, 314 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:24.000 or other groups that would enhance FRTR's coronation efforts and what is your 315 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:29.000 vision for the future of FRTR ? What you see as a keyvalue of FRTR for your 316 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:34.000 agency and what would you hope to see FRTR accomplish in the next 5 to 317 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:42.000 10 years? 318 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:44.000 The meetings for today and on the 26 will be looking at responses to these 319 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:49.000 questionnaires that were sent out and formulated by the FRTR steering committee 320 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:54.000 and sent out to all the member agencies. Today we will go through those 321 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:58.000 responses and have a cord needed 322 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:03.000 panel discussion. To lead us in that discussion, first we will talk about the 323 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:08.000 responses we got in a separate sense. That will 324 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:11.000 be by Tonya. She's a research engineer at that 325 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.000 U.S. illogical in Virginia. She received a 326 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:19.000 PhD in water resource 327 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:21.000 engineering firm the University of Michigan. She's a registered professional 328 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:26.000 engineer in the state of 329 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:56.000 New Mexico. 330 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:21.000 >> Thank you. Going to be discussing today the questionnaire to senior leadersof the FRTR member agencies that weresent out. Rather that looking at 331 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:21.000 specific responses, I will be talking about common themes in responses thatwere generally given across thedifferent agencies. The two questions I will talk about today are, what are the 332 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:22.000 grand challenges facing the agencies regarding remediation over the next decade 333 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:27.000 and the second one is, what are 334 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:34.000 that technology needs and research gaps that are related to 335 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:36.000 those challenges. Those fall under three categories. The first one is 336 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:39.000 contaminant source and site characterization. Next, emergency contaminants and 337 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:43.000 remedy resilience under evolving 338 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:46.000 climatic conditions. 339 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:49.000 We also wanted 340 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:54.000 your answers. You have two options 341 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:59.000 to share your responses. You can submit your own responses to these questions 342 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:03.000 on the grand challenges and technologies jeans and research gaps using the Q&A 343 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:07.000 feature in the live webinar today. You can submit 344 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:10.000 your responses anonymously if you prefer by clicking the appropriate box on the 345 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:14.000 question 346 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:20.000 form in zoom. Secondly you can send in your thoughts 347 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:27.000 by email to the website on the screen. All 348 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:30.000 these responses will need to be brought 349 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:35.000 in by May 350 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:39.000 31st, 2021. 351 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:44.000 Let's move on to some of the responses from our 352 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:59.000 senior leaders. 353 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:05.000 These are some of the grand challenges that 354 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:07.000 were reported among different agencies. The first one is climate change and 355 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:13.000 climate resiliency. Specifically how these factor 356 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:16.000 into long term remedy decisions. Emerging contaminants were also cited as a 357 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:22.000 challenge. Specifically how do you characterize, cleanup 358 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:25.000 and assess the risk associated with these contaminants. Large, complex sites 359 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:29.000 are often difficult to remediate and pose a 360 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:36.000 great challenge. It could be possibly due to the features that are exhibited at 361 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:42.000 these sites. Low permeability 362 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.000 zones, groundwater and contaminants could be an issue. Technology selection and 363 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:50.000 use of flexible strategies is also 364 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:56.000 a challenge. Many agencies suggested that 365 00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:01.000 limited resources may pose a challenge in the future as they do now. 366 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:04.000 There's limitations of cleanup technology pennies to be addressed to improve 367 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:07.000 technology as emerging contaminants come to 368 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:12.000 the forefront. And training 369 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:16.000 new personnel is always an issue. Transferring 370 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:19.000 the knowledge to the newer generations joining the workforce is of concern to 371 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:24.000 our agency 372 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:27.000 including the RPMs. 373 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:32.000 >> Let's turn our attention to the 374 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:37.000 related gaps. These fall into three categories. The 375 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:40.000 first one is emerging contaminants. Some of 376 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:44.000 the technology needs and research gaps include the need for toxicity and 377 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:50.000 behavior data to better understand how these contaminants could impact different 378 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:55.000 aspects of cleanup. In some cases interim guidance 379 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:59.000 is necessary. This speaks to the need for expanded research and better 380 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:03.000 understanding the contaminants that can lead to other methods 381 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:07.000 for sampling, analyzing them as well as treating them 382 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:11.000 and implementing the 383 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:15.000 remediation technologies. 384 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:20.000 The next category is the contaminant source and site 385 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:24.000 care irritation. Some of the technology needs and gaps here include 386 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:28.000 cost-effective characterization at an appropriate scale especially for large 387 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:34.000 sites. There's a need for conceptual site 388 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:38.000 models dynamic and these could be useful tools when you are designing different 389 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:43.000 remedies. This will give you 390 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:46.000 an understanding how the sites can change over time as the remedies are taking 391 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:53.000 effect. There's also a need for technology to reduce the source of a contaminant 392 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:58.000 as well as robotic sampling methods. These can be useful 393 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:01.000 in cases where some of these sites are very difficult to access and there's also 394 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:06.000 a need for improved inventory of resource 395 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:10.000 extraction sites. For example, abandoned mines 396 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:14.000 and features and a better understanding will lead to better implementation of 397 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:20.000 remedies for cleanup as well as 398 00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:24.000 cost analysis. There's a need for improved understanding of the necessary 399 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:29.000 balance between model assumptions and field data. How can 400 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:33.000 we start 401 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:36.000 assumptions regarding a site based on what we measure in the field is 402 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:39.000 important. There's a need for improving sensors. This could lead to better 403 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:45.000 real-time monitoring which could be useful for understanding how effect 404 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:51.000 these remediation schemes are. There's a need for improved subsurface 405 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:55.000 characterization tools. Final 406 00:25:55.000 --> 00:26:00.000 category is remedy resilience under evolving 407 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.000 climatic condition. Some of the needs and research gaps that were reflected in 408 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:07.000 the questionnaire include the need for treatment and containment strategies that 409 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.000 can weather 410 00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:15.000 climate events. In some cases there's a need 411 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:19.000 for developing more complex models that capture the different facets that affect 412 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:24.000 a field site. For example the 413 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:27.000 need for integrated climate, topographic, 414 00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:32.000 geologic, geophysical and biologic models 415 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:39.000 of watersheds for more accurate modeling of site cleanup impacts. There's a 416 00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.000 need for better prediction of future climate conditions in different regions 417 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:47.000 across the United States. There is a need for better understanding of sea level 418 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:54.000 rise on remedies near shorelines and a need to better understand how renewable 419 00:26:54.000 --> 00:27:01.000 energy can play a role in some of these remediation 420 00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:05.000 technology implementation's. I hope all of this information can give you an idea 421 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:12.000 on some of the responses and 422 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.000 challenges that are facing our agencies today. Next up you get to hear from each 423 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.000 agency 424 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:23.000 senior leader. They will talk about their perspectives of remediation challenges 425 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:27.000 over the next decade. Each panelist will provide a brief overview 426 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:32.000 of their agency's mission, remediation programs and highlights of agency 427 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:37.000 challenges and priorities. This session will be monitored by Greg 428 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:42.000 Gervais. Is a national program manager for the environmental detection agency 429 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:50.000 federal facility Superfund program and director of EPA's federal facilities 430 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:53.000 restoration office. Greg is responsible for national policy development and 431 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:58.000 oversight for over $1 432 00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:01.000 billion in annual cleanup at the federal facilities around the country including 433 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:07.000 175 434 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:12.000 national list sites. His background in chemical engineering and licensure as 435 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:15.000 a professional engineer has let him down and extinguished federal career path 436 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:20.000 not only with various programs within EPA but also with 437 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:24.000 the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the national oceanic and 438 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:27.000 atmospheric administration. With that, I will turn it over to Greg. 439 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:32.000 >> Thank 440 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:37.000 you, Tanya. As Tom said in his 441 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:44.000 remarks may 2020 mark the 30th anniversary of the FRTR. The roundtable first met 442 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:47.000 in May of 1990 and involved senior program managers from federal agencies with 443 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:51.000 responsibilities to cleaning up hazardous, toxic and 444 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:58.000 radioactive waste sites and with significant investments in developing and 445 00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:03.000 applying options to meet the cleanup needs. The original FRTR objectives 446 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:08.000 are twofold. To identify common site cleanup issues across 447 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.000 the agencies and to identify and share research 448 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:14.000 and demonstration knowledge to improve the understanding of the cleanup industry 449 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.000 of the applicability and performance of 450 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:22.000 innovative tech knowledge ease. The panel session for our 451 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:28.000 virtual spring 2021 meeting spread across two days. Today as well as next week, 452 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:33.000 May 26. We will engage with leaders responsible for the program instrument for 453 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:40.000 the reading mission efforts of the FRTR member agencies. 454 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:44.000 Now to our panel session. Each panelist will start with brief remarks about the 455 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:50.000 challenges they remediation or research programs are facing or 456 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:56.000 will face. Remarks will be followed up by a 457 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:01.000 short break than a round robin Q&A session. Hopefully driven from questions from 458 00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:05.000 our audience. Next week leaders of their 459 00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:10.000 remediation research efforts will share the directions they are headed in terms 460 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:16.000 of technology, research and development. With that 461 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:23.000 let's begin, Mark Gilbertson is a deputy director for the Superfund technology 462 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:26.000 and innovation of the U.S. environmental protection agency. Go 463 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:32.000 ahead Dana. 464 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:36.000 >> Thank you. I was struck by how many of my comments at 465 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:44.000 remarks intersect a lot with what you just said and what 466 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:49.000 can't and everyone talked about. It illustrates the importance of us working 467 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:53.000 together on how much better we can do and how much we proven over the last 468 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:58.000 decades when we work together we kind make a 469 00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.000 bigger difference for each of our agencies and for 470 00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:09.000 the 471 00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:13.000 environment. Within the EPA the most visible part of our program is the 472 00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:16.000 national priorities list. As you see on the slide we currently have over 1300 473 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:22.000 sites that are 474 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:24.000 currently final. That does not include the 4500 sites that have been proposed 475 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:31.000 to 476 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:35.000 the list or over 400 that have been deleted from the list over the years which 477 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:38.000 is remarkable example of the great work that's been done. This does include the 478 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:43.000 federal facilities that Greg's 479 00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:46.000 office oversees for EPA. What those numbers do not include is the amount of work 480 00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:51.000 in the other programs 481 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:56.000 within EPA that take advantage of the technologies we have been able to work 482 00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.000 through the FRTR in developing over the years. If 483 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:03.000 you look at the corrective action program you are 484 00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:07.000 talking about over 485 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:12.000 1000 facilities. The 486 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:17.000 federal facilities is over 10,000. State and private facilities that 487 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:21.000 are not being cleaned up by EPA there are tens of 488 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.000 thousands there. we have thousands of removal actions we've taken over the 489 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:27.000 years. It's a huge universe of work 490 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:31.000 that we do to clean up 491 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:34.000 the environment and also implementing the technologies that 492 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.000 this group has made such a 493 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:41.000 difference in. Some of 494 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:45.000 the challenges that are the biggest in 495 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:52.000 many ways and most complex. Groundwater. 496 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:57.000 We have over 80 % of our sites have some type of groundwater contamination. 497 00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:01.000 A lot of 498 00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:05.000 [Indiscernible]. Over 80 % of 499 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:08.000 NPL have one aspect of contamination. Deleted some of those sites but a lot of 500 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:14.000 them we are 501 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:20.000 working on. It was talked about earlier that we traditionally have 502 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.000 done more treatment with groundwater and move to more source treatment. 503 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.000 We still and the timing it takes to get the groundwater cleaned up when you 504 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:32.000 can't get to 505 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:37.000 it directly is long. The good news is we are making progress. I will talk about 506 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.000 characterization reaches another area we've made progress in. As far as mining 507 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:45.000 goes, within EPA's 508 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:51.000 national priorities list we have 140 or so minds or mind 509 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:56.000 processing facilities. There's hundreds of thousands of abandoned mine lands out 510 00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:02.000 there. They don't all present the same kinds of hazards but 511 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:08.000 a lot have fluid hazards or other hazards we need to deal with and 512 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:13.000 worry about. It is a huge problem. Our program, 513 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.000 the EPA program deals with a small percentage of it. Hopefully 514 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:20.000 working together we can see which technologies 515 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:25.000 work best. We have done a lot of 516 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:30.000 work within EPA up looking at the technologies and working with our office 517 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.000 research and development on what has worked and what has not. Talking to project 518 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:38.000 managers looking through literature 519 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:43.000 et cetera. We are trying to find out what works best and what has the least 520 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:49.000 footprint in terms of some of the traditional 521 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:54.000 cleanup technologies. They leave sludge and other issues so we are looking for a 522 00:34:54.000 --> 00:35:05.000 better way to clean up these types 523 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:11.000 of sites. You have multimedia, you have water, sediment, soil. How 524 00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:16.000 do we characterize what's going on and how do we come up with technologies, 525 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:20.000 modeling and scientific approaches to protect the environment the best 526 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:23.000 we can. That's a constant challenge. 527 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:28.000 Contaminants. Emerging contaminants and 528 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:34.000 emerging science. We mentioned earlier PFAS. These 529 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:38.000 are chemicals that are getting a lot of attention and rightly so in terms of the 530 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:41.000 contamination and health impacts but also the challenges 531 00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:44.000 with remediating 532 00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:48.000 this 533 00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:52.000 contamination. 534 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:57.000 One -- 1, 4 535 00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:02.000 Dioxane and lead. We are looking for ways to dig 536 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:07.000 up soil. Are there other ways you can address some of the contamination and 537 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:13.000 exposures that are out there that we are trying to 538 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:18.000 improve. How we can reduce that exposure. I would be remiss if I didn't talk 539 00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:22.000 about the intersection between policy and technology. With lead one of the 540 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:29.000 challenges we are looking at more than ever is 541 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:34.000 the various different pathways of exposure of lead and how often the 542 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:39.000 communities have been underserved in many ways and have had to deal with these 543 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:46.000 exposures to the various pathways. As we go and and looking at 544 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:49.000 the program, we are also looking at working with water program, air program, 545 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:54.000 indoor dust programs 546 00:36:54.000 --> 00:37:00.000 to see what's the true contamination out there. We are 547 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:06.000 hoping that not only informs what's going on but also helps us determine what 548 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:11.000 kinds of remediation's will be most appropriate and what technologies will 549 00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:17.000 be useful. 550 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:23.000 This is getting at what I was talking about. A major focus on environmental 551 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:28.000 justice. There was an executive order that came out 552 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:31.000 and from 553 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:34.000 the White House and talked about environmental justice. Talked about climate 554 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:40.000 change which was talked about earlier today. It also focused on redevelopment. 555 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:45.000 One of the things that we as an overall program will looking at technologies 556 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.000 we realized one of the greatest areas of success that we've had in terms of 557 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.000 overall site cleanups have been at sites where there's a vision for what the 558 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:57.000 site will look like after the cleanup 559 00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:05.000 is done. That has energized communities and brought 560 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:09.000 people finding and try to say this is how we get to that end 561 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:15.000 goal and new vision. The technologies is a 562 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:21.000 key part. Parties working together is also a key part. This feeds into where we 563 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:25.000 need to be. We are not only protecting everyone but making sure those 564 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:29.000 communities that have been 565 00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:34.000 impacted are addressed appropriately. 566 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:40.000 When we walk away we not only have a cleaner environment but a better economy. 567 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:44.000 We have a community that is in a better place than they were prior to 568 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:51.000 us entering. That's the goal on how we bring the technology and 569 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:55.000 policies together. Remediation technologies are 570 00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:02.000 a priority. Over 20 years of 571 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:06.000 optimization, our experience tells us characterization is critical. One of the 572 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.000 things I've learned in my years here is how important it is to look at what's 573 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:14.000 going 574 00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.000 on. For instance subsurface. Whether it's ground water or 575 00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:20.000 other surface. The better you know what's going on the better you can figure out 576 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:24.000 what technologies will 577 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:29.000 be applicable and what areas you really need to clean. There's been times in the 578 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:34.000 past went our characteristic technologies were not as good and we look for 579 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:40.000 contamination in the wrong places and spent money and time digging in the areas 580 00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:43.000 that were not as contaminated. Our overall cleanup approach has improved by 581 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:48.000 having a better knowledge on what's 582 00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:54.000 going on. These next few slides get 583 00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:57.000 into more about outside characterization. A lot of you are familiar 584 00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.000 with tools that were introduced and considered innovative at the time. We have a 585 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.000 track record 586 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:08.000 these work. The 587 00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:13.000 conceptual site models is critical in terms of both the characterize what's 588 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.000 going on and helping us develop a remedy that will work. I've seen very 589 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:20.000 effective examples 590 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:23.000 of that when we have people working together. Sometimes we have responsible 591 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:30.000 parties who are willing to work closely with the state and the federal 592 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:36.000 regulators to come up with an approach that will work for everyone. Ultimately 593 00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:40.000 will lead to the protection we need to have. Usually when working together we 594 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.000 can find the most efficient ways to do it and it's a win for everyone as we try 595 00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:50.000 to 596 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:56.000 protect people. I mentioned groundwater. This is a reader ration. That's one 597 00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:02.000 area that progress has been noteworthy and tremendous. As we look at our reports 598 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:08.000 over the years, this has been the most striking change where early on we were 599 00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:13.000 pumping and treating and that's good for taking out 600 00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:18.000 some contamination but common sense tells you if you can get at the 601 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:21.000 source instead the edge of the source you will make a big difference. It allows 602 00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:25.000 you to consider other technology types. I've seen a number of sites where we've 603 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:28.000 gone in and let's 604 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:33.000 try this 605 00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:37.000 technology within a plume that had not been tried in that 606 00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:41.000 situation before. Technology had been used in 607 00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:44.000 different situations but then applied it to this situation and made a 608 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:50.000 difference. What once was innovative 609 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.000 is now not quite cutting edge but the ability to recognize the situation where 610 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:58.000 it can be 611 00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:01.000 is critical. Not only developing new technologies but also having a better 612 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:07.000 understanding to wear those technologies are 613 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.000 most used. One of 614 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:13.000 the challenges that we have and I mentioned 615 00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:18.000 the 616 00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:23.000 importance at looking at a site as a whole. Looking at the aspects of the site 617 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:28.000 where the policies, communities and technologies come together. There's also 618 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:33.000 a challenge with emerging contaminants that are not addressed the same way that 619 00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:36.000 other contender minutes are. In terms of 620 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:40.000 future 621 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.000 work, where PFAS is existing and other contaminants 622 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:48.000 are there but they do not respond the same way to the 623 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:54.000 same remedial approaches, that's a challenge we have in front of us as we look 624 00:42:54.000 --> 00:43:00.000 for these new contaminants. I encourage us to think about how to be more 625 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:04.000 efficient. With that, what was innovative before is now more standard but the 626 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:11.000 only reason it's more standard is 627 00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:14.000 a group like this has taken these technologies and applied it in the field and 628 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.000 has shown success. I encourage us to continue and work together. 629 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:21.000 >> Thank you. Are next 630 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:24.000 panelist is 631 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:29.000 Lara Beasley. 632 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:36.000 >> Hello, everyone. Happy 30th 633 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:40.000 anniversary to the FRTR Roundtable. I've got over 20 years of experience in my 634 00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:44.000 career and have been listening to the seminars for the majority of that and 635 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:48.000 it's a privilege to be here and participate in 636 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:54.000 today's dialogue. I'm Lara Beasley 637 00:43:54.000 --> 00:44:01.000 chief of environmental division, U.S. Army Corps 638 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:07.000 of engineers. Our work falls into two categories. Environmental cleanup and 639 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:11.000 environmental quality. The majority of that $2 billion worth of work is 640 00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:15.000 environmental cleanup. Our environment is at the forefront of many key 641 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:20.000 initiative from policy and execution. Some which have been touched 642 00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:25.000 on already. Although these initiatives present their own challenges they also 643 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:31.000 present a big opportunity for us to further our collective 644 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:39.000 remediation goals. Let's start with 645 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:45.000 executive order 14,008, tackling the climate change. My team and I 646 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:51.000 are tracking that will impact our work in the future. This includes specifying 647 00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:54.000 net zero emissions, economy wide by 2050. We as an agency and federal government 648 00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:58.000 have a lot of work 649 00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:03.000 to do in designing and engineering solutions that improve our 650 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:09.000 bottom line. Specifically it encourages nature-based solutions. The core of 651 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:13.000 engineers, we are in a unique position with our primary mission supporting 652 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:19.000 our the Department of Defense and other agencies but also in our 653 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:24.000 title 33. We have a lot of experience in engineer with 654 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:29.000 nature. There's a great opportunity for us as an agency to 655 00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:32.000 assist ourselves, the OD partners and other federal partners in evaluating 656 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.000 intersection of 657 00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:39.000 nature-based 658 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:44.000 solutions. Additionally environmental justice issues and 659 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:48.000 making sure we are looking at the emphasis placed on that. We've talked about 660 00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:52.000 environmental justice for a long time but it's the time for us to put money 661 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:57.000 where our mouth is on that. We are 662 00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:02.000 strategizing on how to posture ourselves to support the administration goals on 663 00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:07.000 climate change mitigation and adaptation as outlined in the 664 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:14.000 executive order. That's just a lot of my focus these days. What about ongoing 665 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:18.000 initiatives? My favorite for letter word, PFAS 666 00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:22.000 or more broadly emerging chemicals of 667 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:30.000 environmental concern. The defense appropriations for 668 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:36.000 21 includes $405 million for PFAS remediation across the defense environmental 669 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:41.000 restoration program. It underscores is 670 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:45.000 initiatives within the Department of Defense. For research 671 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:50.000 perspective, we need PFAS sampling strategies , 672 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:55.000 analytical methods and remediation strategies that can help 673 00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:59.000 data quality and objectives. Most of our sites are in the initial 674 00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:05.000 characterization phase. With the amount of money Congress is throwing at us we 675 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:10.000 are expected to go to clean up and need to be able to quantify that and set up 676 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:15.000 data quality objectives and work with the regulatory community and our 677 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:18.000 wider communities. 678 00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:23.000 Munition response. A big part 679 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:26.000 of my 680 00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:30.000 portfolio. We need robust systems that are deployable from multiple 681 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:36.000 environments including underwater systems. We need quality processes to account 682 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:40.000 for variable geologic background as we look at these new emission 683 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:43.000 response systems and how we are deploying and collecting that information and 684 00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:48.000 continue to work on 685 00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:53.000 what the right cleanup goal is for individual sites. In terms of 686 00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:58.000 ongoing initiatives as it has been touched on, complex 687 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:09.000 groundwater sites. 688 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:12.000 We would like to see processes that will help with the transition point between 689 00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.000 active remediation 690 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:20.000 and ongoing 691 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:29.000 mut nation. 692 00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:33.000 Here at the Army Corps of Engineers were committed to providing the best 693 00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:37.000 available technologies and solutions for all of our partners. This requires 694 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:42.000 deliberate emphasis on key factors including data quality. New standards result 695 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:47.000 in new technologies. Developing 696 00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:51.000 new technology in defining the necessary quality processes often takes 697 00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:57.000 time. Technologies that have established quality system requirements as we get 698 00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:02.000 those new standards. It needs to be reproducible. 699 00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.000 Sites test, trials and pout studies that are developed at the appropriate 700 00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:13.000 standards 701 00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:18.000 in mind. This includes being validated by outside entities 702 00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:22.000 such as the ones here on 703 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:28.000 your screen. Commercially available technologies are 704 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:31.000 much preferred to meet the demands of the numerous sites in our programs. It's 705 00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:35.000 hard for us to permit technology when it's availability can't meet the needs of 706 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:40.000 our programs. Also knowledge sharing is so cute. 707 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:43.000 There's value in communication such as today's forum 708 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:46.000 to assist in 709 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:51.000 sharing lessons learned. I recommend 710 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.000 close consideration of these key elements to help foster shared understanding 711 00:49:53.000 --> 00:50:00.000 and support 712 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.000 technological innovations. To wrap up because I want to let the rest of 713 00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:10.000 the panel have time. As a future research 714 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:13.000 needs will include support climate change initiatives. While these initiatives 715 00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:16.000 are not fully defined for our organization, optimization will be critical to 716 00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:21.000 understanding the benefit of the solutions to the overall 717 00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:25.000 climate impact. Technologies and capabilities must continue to 718 00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:30.000 expand, become readily available and cost less. We need to quantify how each to 719 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:34.000 nology will support reductions and greenhouse gas emissions 720 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.000 and support carbon sequestration and remediation. 721 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:39.000 This 722 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:44.000 will support new and 723 00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:48.000 developing techniques. We also need to champion environmental justice 724 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:52.000 initiatives. This includes studies 725 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:56.000 that evaluate environmental practices and how remediation strategies can support 726 00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:59.000 environmental justice initiatives such 727 00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.000 as 728 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:06.000 the exert 729 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:15.000 order 14,008. 730 00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:19.000 We need to anticipate future or additional needs to determine where these 731 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:24.000 innovations can intersect current and 732 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:27.000 future processes. These include how these technologies are evaluated to ensure 733 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:34.000 quality process and applications to 734 00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:38.000 other programs. As part of these efforts we need to accelerate progress through 735 00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:43.000 partnerships, collaboration and information sharing all of which are in 736 00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:51.000 today's forum and I look forward to our continued dialogue. Thank you. 737 00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:56.000 >> Thank you. That we will hear from Rob Sadorra. Director of environmental 738 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:59.000 restoration division in the Naval facilities engineering 739 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:03.000 command. 740 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:08.000 >> I want to say I really appreciate this 741 00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:15.000 panel discussion. From my perspective the FRTR has been instrumental in the 742 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:19.000 success of our navies cleanup program. A big thank 743 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:24.000 -- thanks to the entire steering committee for pulling all of this together. 744 00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:27.000 Looking forward to many more years of continued coordination and collaboration 745 00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:32.000 among 746 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:35.000 our agencies. To 747 00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:43.000 start out I want to talk about this 748 00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:49.000 snapshot of our frustration program. A little context on where 749 00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:52.000 we are. Almost 4500 sites currently within our program. We made great progress 750 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:57.000 to date. 751 00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:02.000 3700 sites what we consider response complete which is a 752 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:08.000 key milestone. 753 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:11.000 That leaves us with 700 active sites in the program which similar to the Army 754 00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:16.000 are really more of a 755 00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:19.000 technically complicated and costly sites within our program. A lot of low 756 00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:29.000 hanging fruit is done and what we 757 00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:32.000 have left is the tougher nuts to crack. Of the 700, 500 sites currently are in 758 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:35.000 active and initial 759 00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:39.000 cleanup faces. We 760 00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:45.000 have advanced with remedies in place in 761 00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:50.000 200 sites. Many of these remedies we are seeing are operating into perpetuity. 762 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:53.000 This is an area we need to challenge ourselves 763 00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:57.000 and test whether in fact we have the 764 00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:00.000 right remedies, approaches, technologies in place 765 00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:06.000 to support our clean up 766 00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:11.000 needs. Bottom line. A lot of progress has been made. There 767 00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:15.000 is still lots of work to do. I want to caveat by saying this 768 00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:18.000 snapshot doesn't scratch the surface as far as reflecting the work we seek 769 00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:25.000 coming down the pipe with respect to 770 00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:30.000 PFAS . On the 771 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:34.000 funding aspects, it's about $5.6 772 00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:39.000 billion program. We've been pretty fortunate 773 00:54:39.000 --> 00:55:09.000 to maintain 774 00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:21.000 [Indiscernible].We've got a lot of challenges ahead of us but for now we are seeing a lot ofcongressional and budget support for dealing with those challenges 775 00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:27.000 going forward.As far as the bigger challenges we have within the navies program as mentioned 776 00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:33.000 earlier emerging contaminants has been at the forefront and PFAS is at the top 777 00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:36.000 of that list. In the last few years PFAS has been eating 778 00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:41.000 our lunch with many 779 00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:49.000 other agencies. With the advisory in 2016 the 780 00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:52.000 Navy took an aggressive approach to try to address exposure issues. 781 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:59.000 We sampled hundreds of wells and 782 00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:09.000 we found [Indiscernible] and we were very aggressive in providing 783 00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:12.000 alternative water. We've reached the point at feeling we have at least 784 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:18.000 exposure concerns under control. 785 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:25.000 We've moved into trying to understand the magnitude of the problem 786 00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:31.000 we have. Try to give you a sense where we are. Collectively 787 00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:34.000 around 4000 areas of concern that are being evaluated as part of our 788 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:40.000 PS I cross our installations. We 789 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:43.000 are anticipating around 500 to 1000 that will need to move forward and get into 790 00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:49.000 full 791 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:55.000 remedial investigation. We've got about 500 active 792 00:56:55.000 --> 00:57:03.000 remedial programs. Increasing the number there 793 00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:10.000 but perhaps 2 to 3 fold. That's tremendous amount of work and challenges 794 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:15.000 going forward. With respect to other emerging issues or concerns we 795 00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:19.000 also have 796 00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:22.000 vapor 797 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:26.000 intrusion. Specifically related 798 00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:29.000 to understanding OSHA 799 00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:35.000 versus EPA short-term 800 00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:38.000 exposure criteria. We are trying to understand the 801 00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:41.000 different 802 00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:44.000 factors of 803 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:51.000 vapor intrusion. Really trying to advance some 804 00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:55.000 better medication and approaches to addressing those vapor intrusion issues. 805 00:57:55.000 --> 00:58:01.000 Also emerging concerns. Starting 806 00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:05.000 to see a lot more of the level [Indiscernible] come into 807 00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:09.000 the program. Separate from the restoration program we 808 00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:15.000 are pursuing the 809 00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:20.000 assessments for evaluating historical operations. Seeing where they may have 810 00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:23.000 operations that have been impacted 811 00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:25.000 there's [Indiscernible]. Many of 812 00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:30.000 those cases where we've had 813 00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:34.000 historical operations a lot of that require 814 00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:39.000 is falling onto the 815 00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:44.000 restoration program. Trying to better understand risk and make decision on risk 816 00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:49.000 and how to make more site-specific 817 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:56.000 risk determination. 818 00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:59.000 The goal here is to have a 819 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:05.000 better characterization on 820 00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:09.000 the sites. Next one are 821 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:12.000 the conflicts. What 822 00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:15.000 we 823 00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:21.000 have are nets hard 824 00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:25.000 to crack. Many of 825 00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:30.000 these sites have remedies 826 00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:35.000 in place but we 827 00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:42.000 are recognizing they're not going to be [Indiscernible] on 828 00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:46.000 the site's. They have to operate some of the remedies we have in place and what 829 00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:53.000 we are trying to do is advance different concepts of 830 00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:56.000 better understanding, risk and making better decisions on risk. Recognizing 831 00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:59.000 perhaps different 832 00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:02.000 end points. For example 833 01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:07.000 the work that we are doing with 834 01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:15.000 EPA on site management is 835 01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:21.000 extremely valuable. On the emissions front, 836 01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:26.000 this is being successful in respect to 837 01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:31.000 technology advancement. Our mission response program set up in the 838 01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:39.000 early 2000. A lot of the investment was made 839 01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:43.000 by DOD. To help us better address the site. We had 840 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:48.000 was 841 01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:52.000 [Indiscernible]. We are starting to see a lot of 842 01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:58.000 that technology make its way into 843 01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:02.000 the mainstream. Key is making that available for commercial use. We are at 844 01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:09.000 the point where many of our contractors have 845 01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:14.000 that capability. Going forward, the 846 01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:19.000 challenge is the investment that's 847 01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:22.000 been made. Lot of shortfalls 848 01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:26.000 and 849 01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:30.000 understanding [Indiscernible]. We are proud of the fact with the Navy we've been 850 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:39.000 able to leverage our 851 01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:44.000 operational assets. And find some of the countermeasures that they have and 852 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:48.000 applying that 853 01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:54.000 to the problems we have. It's exciting because we are starting to see a lot of 854 01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:58.000 that nology make its way to the commercial space. Things like 855 01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:08.000 advanced [Indiscernible]. We are starting to see that the nology being made more 856 01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:10.000 available commercially and being able to access that took nology and put that 857 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:15.000 mainstream for our stakeholders 858 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:19.000 to understand. That's 859 01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:25.000 promising. The areas where we still need to advance our 860 01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:28.000 understanding risk particularly in the water environments and make better 861 01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:30.000 decisions going forward on 862 01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:35.000 those sites. 863 01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:41.000 Sediment sites are a major challenge for us. The complexity of sediment sites we 864 01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:44.000 deal with is that we deal with 865 01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:47.000 nature within our 866 01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:53.000 sediment sites. Dealing with different contaminants 867 01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:59.000 and issues. So much of our focus recently on the sediment side 868 01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:04.000 has been the sorting and screening 869 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:15.000 technologies within our sites to segregate some of these issues as 870 01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:20.000 we look to dispose of our sediments. The final issue I want to 871 01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:26.000 throw in is the low risk sites. 872 01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:31.000 We talk a lot about the complex sites we have left in the program we 873 01:03:31.000 --> 01:04:01.000 are's bill 874 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:12.000 -- [Indiscernible] many sites are low risk and those are our performance sites.We have operating systems forsome time for the removal of thin layers of the product. We are not able to 875 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:13.000 closethe books. Nothing I would like more than address the sites, move forward and beable to focus our attention on more complicated issues growing in 876 01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:18.000 our program. 877 01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:24.000 A few 878 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:27.000 final thoughts as I try to close this out. Some of the challenges we face in 879 01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:31.000 timing is a 880 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:34.000 big one. 881 01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:39.000 We 882 01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:47.000 all recognize that it takes time to advance 883 01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:55.000 the nology for utilization in the mainstream. From a validation stamp point 884 01:04:55.000 --> 01:05:00.000 we've seen that cycle go around three or four years. It's taken well over a 885 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.000 decade from initial lab scale work to validation 886 01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:05.000 to 887 01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:11.000 come 888 01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:14.000 -- criminalization. At this point 889 01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:18.000 we are 890 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:22.000 [Indiscernible] contractor data which highlights the next major point. There is 891 01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:31.000 a strong need for maintaining a robust 892 01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:36.000 technology clearinghouse. It's a perfect Avenue for 893 01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:46.000 doing that. 894 01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:52.000 That's important to that last one which is stakeholders 895 01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:57.000 by and. We do things collaboratively within the programs and its 896 01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:03.000 critical that us and our stakeholders are involved in the 897 01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:14.000 decision-making process. 898 01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:17.000 There's been a concerted effort within DOD to advance 899 01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:24.000 different avenues for 900 01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:34.000 those discussions and conveying that information including involving 901 01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:39.000 FRTR . The Navy has made efforts as well along this front with developing the 902 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:48.000 platform and opening up our seminars so we can have these avenues for discussion 903 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:57.000 and education on the latest, greatest and advanced technology so we can make 904 01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:00.000 decisions based on that information. FRTR , these discussions is another 905 01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:05.000 perfect Avenue. 906 01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:08.000 With that, I will leave it there and look forward to any further discussion 907 01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:11.000 today and going 908 01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:14.000 forward. 909 01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:18.000 >> Thank you. Are next 910 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:21.000 panelists is Dr. Kent Glover. 911 01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:24.000 Therefore subject matter expert for 912 01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.000 remediation systems. 913 01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:34.000 >> Let's go on to the 914 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.000 next slide. A lot of my message will be similar to what you heard from Rob and 915 01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:40.000 Laura to the Navy 916 01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:47.000 and Army. A little different 917 01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:53.000 as well. In the Air Force we have an environmental liability. This slide 918 01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:58.000 summarizes the magnitude of that enterprise. We've made progress in the 919 01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:02.000 last decade in meeting 920 01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:12.000 cleanup holes 921 01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:17.000 . The remaining 922 01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:21.000 sites tend to have complex technical challenges and large cost and 923 01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:24.000 long tails. In 924 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:30.000 recent years our mission and focus 925 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:34.000 has shifted in a big way to include PFAS remediation as it has with 926 01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:38.000 other agencies. The rest of 927 01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:44.000 this slide is a snapshot where we are in 928 01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:50.000 the process. S eyes have been done through all our installations now starting 929 01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:59.000 down the path of remedial investigations and doing some drinking water 930 01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:05.000 response actions. We don't know the full size of the problem when it comes to 931 01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:07.000 how many sites will need actual remedial action. It's a two-pronged program. The 932 01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:13.000 legacy versus 933 01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:17.000 PFAS . 934 01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:20.000 What I've done is 935 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:23.000 listed here the 936 01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.000 grand challenges in 937 01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:31.000 those two buckets. First 938 01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:39.000 for legacy. Contaminants at 939 01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:47.000 complex sites. Because of sourcing from source areas and not 940 01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:51.000 active sources and because we have a large dilute plans we have to somehow deal 941 01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:58.000 with. Specific challenges we have with our 942 01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:01.000 Agassi sites, because they have long tails we need to think about and how to 943 01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:04.000 develop sustainable and adaptable remedies as 944 01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:07.000 conditions change. That's 945 01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:11.000 a challenge. As 946 01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:18.000 we looked at how the remedies are 947 01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:21.000 going, our progress and performance of the remedies at these legacy sites, 948 01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:25.000 there's been a large need 949 01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:28.000 to optimize those remedies. Performance has come up short. That's a challenge. 950 01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:33.000 How do we follow through 951 01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:38.000 and optimize. At the more complex sites there's a need for innovative 952 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:43.000 approaches. How do we leverage that innovation to shorten those cleanup times 953 01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:47.000 and where do we apply it in those kinds 954 01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:52.000 of challenges. 955 01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:58.000 Finally how do we balance 956 01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:04.000 the cost of these long-term site cleanups against 957 01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:09.000 the benefits in terms of risk reduction and resource reuse. Some 958 01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:16.000 of the other speakers have touched on that as a challenge 959 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:21.000 as well. The other big challenge is the 960 01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:29.000 emerging contaminants. 961 01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:35.000 Chemical such as PFAS will be a focus of policy regulation and 962 01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:40.000 public concern. Representing a large expanding portion of 963 01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:47.000 our liability. As we continue to characterize 964 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:53.000 the sites, we need to figure out ways to develop 965 01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:56.000 viable site management strategies in the face of evolving technical 966 01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:59.000 understanding of PFAS 967 01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:06.000 persistence, transport, 968 01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:09.000 toxicology risk 969 01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:12.000 -- because of the regulatory 970 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:19.000 uncertainty and knowledge of 971 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:24.000 PFAS , this is driving a need for new risk management approaches particularly 972 01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:27.000 for those sites that have not been considered remediation sites in the past. For 973 01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:30.000 doing a milk 974 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:35.000 our construction project at 975 01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:40.000 a site in face of all 976 01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:44.000 this uncertainty on what needs to be cleaned up, how 977 01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:49.000 do we deal with that? How do we manage 978 01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:58.000 that risk? 979 01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:05.000 As several people have mentioned we do need to have some effective 980 01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:08.000 on-site treatment at full scales, large source areas, large plumes so that will 981 01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:15.000 continue to be a challenge for the 982 01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:20.000 Air Force. 983 01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:27.000 That challenge drives specific needs 984 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:32.000 for innovation and technology transfer. I've tried to list a few of the key 985 01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:41.000 ones here. 986 01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:46.000 Excuse me. To reiterate what has been said before we need 987 01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:54.000 cost effective methods for characterizing the sites. We need full scale 988 01:13:54.000 --> 01:14:00.000 treatment nology particularly as Laura mentioned for low permeability and 989 01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:05.000 high heterogeneous sites. Because we've allied for the 990 01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:11.000 last decade to our benefit 991 01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:21.000 on remedies now we are finding we need to have better tools to assess and figure 992 01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:25.000 out how to optimize these -- remedies and operate them longer. We look at 993 01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:34.000 these remedies and we 994 01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:40.000 are flying blind a lot of times. That is a need. As several people have 995 01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:47.000 mentioned for characterization of PFAS , we are still infancy of 996 01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:53.000 our knowledge. 997 01:14:53.000 --> 01:15:01.000 And proven treatment technologies first sites, plume scales, 998 01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:04.000 source scales and particularly on-site chemical destructive and in sick to 999 01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:09.000 treatment technologies. And the need 1000 01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:12.000 to look at how efficiently and effectively treat 1001 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:20.000 of mixed PFAS legacy 1002 01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:27.000 contaminants. This may be my 1003 01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:32.000 last slide. I wanted to pause and introduce another challenge 1004 01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:35.000 we find. We have a 1005 01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:38.000 staff 1006 01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:42.000 of many. 1007 01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:47.000 Civil servants and Air Force people and a large staff of contractors that work 1008 01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:52.000 with us on cleanups. 1009 01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:55.000 We find a challenge to continue to build and sustain 1010 01:15:55.000 --> 01:16:00.000 their knowledge as the 1011 01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:03.000 science evolves. This is a challenge going forward for technology transfer 1012 01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:10.000 outreach 1013 01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:14.000 and education. As we work through particularly and it's evident at the PFAS 1014 01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:21.000 sites, public and stakeholder understanding of 1015 01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:28.000 complex problems. Is a challenge to build that knowledge and to build that 1016 01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:33.000 confidence we have solutions to their problems. That leads to some technology 1017 01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:38.000 transfer needs I've listed here. Maybe FRTR can help us 1018 01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:48.000 with. There are ways to foster is particularly 1019 01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:51.000 the upscaling. There's a need for good long-term cost performance data at 1020 01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:54.000 scales of sources and 1021 01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:58.000 plumes insights. 1022 01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:03.000 Particularly for in situ technologies and others 1023 01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:08.000 as well. 1024 01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:13.000 There's a good need for 1025 01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:18.000 good examples case studies where we follow complex 1026 01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:21.000 sites through the optimization process and how do we 1027 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:26.000 -- how success stories but 1028 01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:30.000 also failures which are hard to document. There's a need for long-term case 1029 01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:35.000 studies of complex sites we can learn from to apply to 1030 01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:43.000 other sites. 1031 01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:49.000 We use models for groundwater flow and transport models that 1032 01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:58.000 are complex. Recently the FRTR 1033 01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:04.000 group had an effort to go and gather guidance on use of models and one of the 1034 01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:09.000 findings from that group was there 1035 01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:13.000 is it a good set of best practices or guidance or case studies, appropriate uses 1036 01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:19.000 of models for driving and supporting 1037 01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:24.000 remedial decisions. Particularly 1038 01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:34.000 at our complex sites and long-term site it's an increasing technology 1039 01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:40.000 transfer need. How do we get this complex knowledge out to the 1040 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:44.000 public and are there things that FRTR can help us with ? At this point that the 1041 01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:47.000 end of my slides. Back to you 1042 01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:51.000 Greg. 1043 01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:54.000 >> Next we've got Mark 1044 01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:58.000 Gilbertson whose associate 1045 01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:02.000 principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for regulatory and policy affairs to the 1046 01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:06.000 office of environmental judgment at the U.S. Department of energy. 1047 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:16.000 >> Thank you. I will 1048 01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:20.000 talk about the mission. Not everyone may be aware of it. What we are about in 1049 01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:26.000 the Department of energy is about cleaning up the environmental legacy that was 1050 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:28.000 brought on from decades of nuclear weapons, development and government 1051 01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:35.000 sponsored nuclear research. 1052 01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:38.000 It started with the Manhattan project 1053 01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:42.000 in 1942. 1054 01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:45.000 Our EM program was created in 1989 and 1055 01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:47.000 it's not 1056 01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:54.000 a 1057 01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:56.000 coincidence that FRTR was created. We recognize elite on the need to partner 1058 01:19:56.000 --> 01:20:03.000 across several agencies to 1059 01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:06.000 do this and have been a big supporter of the important work this organization 1060 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:10.000 dies. We hope and continue 1061 01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:15.000 to support the future role for this. I think 1062 01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:17.000 you are in a common theme of needs we have going into 1063 01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:20.000 the future where we need to 1064 01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:27.000 work together. 1065 01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:30.000 Our program is the largest environmental liability in the country right now. If 1066 01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:38.000 you project out over the next 1067 01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:47.000 10 years the costs are on the order of $70 billion 1068 01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:55.000 to execute. The majority of that finding is in areas and a 1069 01:20:55.000 --> 01:21:07.000 little different than what's been talked about today. We focus on radio active 1070 01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:15.000 tank waste. That going into the future for the next 10 years will be about $28 1071 01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:22.000 billion worth of effort. Our nuclear field a nuclear materials management 1072 01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:27.000 and disposition is another large part of our program. It's about 6 billion 1073 01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:32.000 what -- $6 billion of work over the next 1074 01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:38.000 10 years. 1075 01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:40.000 A key thing to keep 1076 01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:45.000 in mind is 1077 01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:47.000 even though you say how is that related to 1078 01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:52.000 our problems? 1079 01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:57.000 The pathway for exposure to the public for most of these radioactive materials 1080 01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:00.000 is 1081 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:10.000 through [Indiscernible] into groundwater 1082 01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:14.000 and into soil. Over this next. Lack of time we have about 3 1/2 billion dollars 1083 01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:20.000 worth of work we will continue to do in 1084 01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:27.000 that area. Since 1989 timeframe, we've 1085 01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:30.000 made progress. We completed cleanup at 91 of the 107 major nuclear weapons and 1086 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:38.000 nuclear 1087 01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:41.000 research sites most of this completed cleanups are being monitored by our sister 1088 01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:45.000 office by the Department of 1089 01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:48.000 energy. The office of legacy management to ensure those cleanups are performing 1090 01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:51.000 in 1091 01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:56.000 the way we had 1092 01:22:56.000 --> 01:23:03.000 designed them. The remaining cleanups we have at several sites are 1093 01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:10.000 very complex with both 1094 01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:17.000 heavy metals and organic types of contaminants that we are dealing with at 1095 01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:20.000 the sites. I will push it in a different direction because I think we as a group 1096 01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:26.000 also need 1097 01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:33.000 to think of revolutionary 1098 01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:37.000 versus evolutionary. As we go forward, one thing we are talking about and the 1099 01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:40.000 Department of Energy with regard to tackling a lot of our problems. Not just in 1100 01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:43.000 the environmental area 1101 01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:48.000 but the energy kind of arena and 1102 01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:55.000 with the weapons production side of the house and basic sciences, how can we 1103 01:23:55.000 --> 01:24:02.000 utilize our artificial intelligence and machine learning processes to 1104 01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:05.000 move forward so we are driving science-based decision-making. I that they are 1105 01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:09.000 on 1106 01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:39.000 top of 1107 01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:49.000 -- we have common problems and things we needto address this climate resiliency. Thecontaminant movement, long-term monitoring and how we in a responsible way exit 1108 01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:51.000 of entry systemshistoric ones. One ofthe things is focused on 1109 01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:55.000 complex sites. A site like Hanford is our largest site and largest ability. That 1110 01:24:55.000 --> 01:25:01.000 site alone in the next 10 years will 1111 01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:04.000 probably extend $26 billion at that site trying to deal with environmental 1112 01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:10.000 legacy that 1113 01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:13.000 was slashed. We need to look at things in a totality and 1114 01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:20.000 look across -- 1115 01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:23.000 we have a tendency with regard to our framework and how we tackle problems that 1116 01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:29.000 we are going to look within solid waste management units and moved from one to 1117 01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:32.000 the next and move forward. As we approach 1118 01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:37.000 a site with this 1119 01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:42.000 many contaminants they are moving in different ways to the environment. It 1120 01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:48.000 behooves us to look at it in a 1121 01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:54.000 different framework. You probably 1122 01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:56.000 don't recognize -- you don't optimize the taxpayers and investment to reduce 1123 01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:59.000 risk by looking 1124 01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:03.000 in 1125 01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:07.000 the pipes. 1126 01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:11.000 We are also 1127 01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:14.000 interesting in PFAS as an emerging 1128 01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:21.000 contaminants. Not as important 1129 01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:28.000 to us but I will stress just because we haven't used it as much at 1130 01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:34.000 our sites, I will stress we really value this group as a potential resource for 1131 01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:38.000 us to speak with the public from a 1132 01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:42.000 technical perspective. Move forward with a comment approach across the 1133 01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:45.000 federal agencies because 1134 01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:50.000 if everybody does it their 1135 01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:57.000 own way we will be very inefficient as we move forward 1136 01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:01.000 with activities. I'm excited about the potential for what FRTR can do with 1137 01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:07.000 regard to the characterization and 1138 01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:11.000 remediation of PFAS contamination so we can learn our lessons in 1139 01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:15.000 the past and move forward into 1140 01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:21.000 the future. One of the 1141 01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:27.000 other things we have tapped into in 1142 01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:36.000 our organization. We have the benefit of the national 1143 01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:39.000 lab system in most of the sites we have. They are large and complex works that 1144 01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:42.000 need to be done. 1145 01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:45.000 We've leveraged 1146 01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:51.000 them in innovative ways to 1147 01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:54.000 look at our problems and sites for how we may do things differently going into 1148 01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:58.000 the future. We've got a lot of work that's 1149 01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:03.000 been done with our technology and 1150 01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:09.000 helping to guide us into the future at several of the sites. I encourage you for 1151 01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:12.000 those of you who are tackling similar kinds of things to reach out and work with 1152 01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:20.000 us so we 1153 01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:25.000 can jointly tackle some of these issues and set priorities for the future as a 1154 01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:29.000 federal group. I will stop there and let the 1155 01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:32.000 next speaker talk about nuclear 1156 01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:35.000 stuff. 1157 01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:38.000 >> Next panelist is another mark. The director of the division of [Indiscernible] 1158 01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:42.000 of the office of nuclear 1159 01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:48.000 regulatory research. 1160 01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:57.000 >> Good afternoon. It's my pleasure to be part of this 1161 01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:01.000 panel discussion. The and RC is responsible for regulating materials to provide 1162 01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:05.000 reasonable assurance of 1163 01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:08.000 adequate protection of public health and safety and to 1164 01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:11.000 promote the common defense 1165 01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:16.000 and security and to protect 1166 01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:20.000 the environment. Like most of the other members of the panel, we are not 1167 01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:23.000 responsible for carrying out remediation but we oversee 1168 01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:28.000 that remediation of sites 1169 01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:35.000 we license. On our grant requirements 1170 01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:40.000 before licenses there's a licensee can terminate their license they have 1171 01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:43.000 to demonstrate the activity at the site will not cause a member of the public to 1172 01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:49.000 receive a radiation dose above our 1173 01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:54.000 regulatory limits. We have a range of sites undergoing decommissioning. These 1174 01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:58.000 include nickel power plants and former manufacturing facilities 1175 01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:01.000 that use radioactivity as part of 1176 01:30:01.000 --> 01:30:05.000 their process. A wide range of 1177 01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:09.000 different site. Similar to 1178 01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:13.000 the OE most remediation 1179 01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:17.000 activity involves 1180 01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:25.000 radioactive contaminants. 1181 01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:29.000 To go over the challenges we have. They are slightly different than the other 1182 01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:34.000 challenges that were posed. There may be some commonality 1183 01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:39.000 as well. One of the challenges 1184 01:30:39.000 --> 01:30:44.000 is the application of new technologies 1185 01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:51.000 for remediation. 1186 01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:55.000 Because part of a remediation we are looking at terminating the license of 1187 01:30:55.000 --> 01:31:01.000 these sites. The licensee needs to walk away from the 1188 01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:04.000 site. We -- we are starting to see some licenses come in with 1189 01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:10.000 novel approaches for meeting 1190 01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:18.000 our requirements. If you're going to leave radioactivity at 1191 01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:22.000 the site, you have to show it's not going to move in the future. That poses 1192 01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:28.000 some challenges. Another 1193 01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:31.000 challenge is and I think this was touched upon earlier. The adoption of a 1194 01:31:31.000 --> 01:31:35.000 federal agency wide radiological survey approach 1195 01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:41.000 and protocol for remediation of 1196 01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:44.000 subsurface contamination. For example you have contamination where you can't 1197 01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:49.000 rely on radiation surveys at 1198 01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:53.000 the surface trying to come up with an 1199 01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:57.000 approach to analyze the appropriate number of samples to collect to show you've 1200 01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:00.000 cleaned up the site. That's 1201 01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:05.000 a challenge. Another 1202 01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:10.000 challenge is assessing the long-term performance of 1203 01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:18.000 remediation program. 1204 01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:23.000 These primarily sites and started to look into issues for the performance 1205 01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:31.000 of the 1206 01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:37.000 sites. Another challenge is establishing appropriate 1207 01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:46.000 consensus based guidance for developing site models with sites with complex 1208 01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:49.000 [Indiscernible]. This was touched upon by nearly everyone. We have some sites 1209 01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:54.000 undergoing remediation that have fairly 1210 01:32:54.000 --> 01:33:00.000 complex hydrogeology and coming up with a way to 1211 01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:03.000 develop acceptable 1212 01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:08.000 conceptual models becomes 1213 01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:13.000 a challenge. 1214 01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:19.000 The last challenge I want to mention 1215 01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:24.000 is ensuring collaboration and coordination with other agencies on 1216 01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:54.000 lessons learned. 1217 01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:10.000 Differentremediation goals so there's a needfor coordination. 1218 01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:11.000 I did want to before ending I wanted to say a few thingsof appreciation. The NRC staff appreciatesthe cobbler work of the FRTR steering committee and the technical partnership 1219 01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:18.000 with the OE to organize and coordinate 1220 01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:26.000 FRTR meetings focusing on mediation cleanup sites containing 1221 01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:33.000 radio nuclei's. The NRC and DOE are the two agencies involved with 1222 01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:38.000 radioactive contamination. We look forward to continue to work with the FRTR 1223 01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:41.000 and identifying and applying innovative technologies. That's it 1224 01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:44.000 for me. 1225 01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:47.000 Next speaker. 1226 01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:52.000 >> Next we will hear 1227 01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:57.000 from Dr. Geoff Plumlee. Chief scientist from the U.S. geological survey. 1228 01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:00.000 >> I have appreciated the presentations that have gone before. You will hear a 1229 01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:06.000 lot of the same messages 1230 01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:11.000 from me. For those of you who don't know the USGS is 1231 01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:16.000 a nonregulatory, not advocacy, science and scientific agency that provides 1232 01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:20.000 formation to inform policy and decision-making on a wide range of topics. From 1233 01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:26.000 eight remediation standpoint we don't do 1234 01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:32.000 site remediation as best as I have learned throughout my career. Both 1235 01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:35.000 as researcher and more recently as a senior leader. We provide the 1236 01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:38.000 interdisciplinary science that can help 1237 01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:43.000 perform 1238 01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:48.000 site remediation and which sites need to be cleaned up. We 1239 01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:51.000 do interdisciplinary earth and biological system science and work. One thing we 1240 01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:56.000 bring in in addition to 1241 01:35:56.000 --> 01:36:03.000 the standard, 1242 01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:33.000 we provide 1243 01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:43.000 [Indiscernible].Our science is aligned along five theme mission areas. The science weprovide is spread across all different 1244 01:36:43.000 --> 01:37:13.000 mission areas. Core science systems, ecosystems, energy and minerals, naturalhazardand water. 1245 01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:34.000 There are a number of different challenges and these are 1246 01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:38.000 technical challenges. I neglected to put on the slides that we also are very 1247 01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:44.000 happy to see the current 1248 01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:49.000 administrations emphasis on science to inform tribal and underserved 1249 01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:53.000 communities and in many cases those are 1250 01:37:53.000 --> 01:37:56.000 our communities that are effected by substantial remediation challenges. We are 1251 01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:02.000 fully supportive of that and 1252 01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:07.000 have had a lot of activity working on that. From these technical challenges, 1253 01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:10.000 for example, how do we better 1254 01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:16.000 characterize emerging yet to 1255 01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:21.000 be discovered contaminants and pathogens. What do to monitor the 1256 01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:25.000 remediation efficacy. I will talk about abandoned mines and 1257 01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:28.000 the photo on the right but first talk about the 1258 01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:33.000 remediation challenges. How do we characterize and understand sites with 1259 01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:37.000 complex hydrogeology and geochemistry. We need to look at it in a 1260 01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:41.000 watershed context. We just can't look at the 1261 01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:45.000 site itself. What are the potential impacts of climate change. You've seen that 1262 01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:51.000 in previous discussions. How can 1263 01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:59.000 we increase science that helps enhance the utility 1264 01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:07.000 and simplification of remediation and how do we deal with waters 1265 01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:10.000 that are contaminated. I wanted to talk about the photo on the left. That is a 1266 01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:16.000 photo of red 1267 01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:20.000 Mountain pass, Colorado, 1962. There's been a lot 1268 01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:27.000 of remediation. This is a good example of an abandoned mine line watershed where 1269 01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:31.000 you have not only multiple mine sites with multiple workings 1270 01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:38.000 that made underground workings that 1271 01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:42.000 may be bad water quality. When it 1272 01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:47.000 rained upon releases metals. You can 1273 01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:54.000 see red Mountain in the background. Estate natural area that's contributing 1274 01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:59.000 quantities of natural rock and grass. How do you understand 1275 01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:08.000 a site 1276 01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:13.000 ? The picture would look different if you photographed it in the 1277 01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:17.000 present day. Technology needs. 1278 01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:20.000 You've heard a lot of these as well and I will let people look through the 1279 01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:25.000 slide or put it 1280 01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:28.000 on pause while looking at it during the recording. How can we 1281 01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:30.000 separate 1282 01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:35.000 testifies 1283 01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:41.000 -- pesticides. Were 1284 01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:46.000 looking at in situ 1285 01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:50.000 and remote advanced sensor technologies to determine multiple 1286 01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:57.000 classes for contaminants that grow from our knowledge of natural geochemical 1287 01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:07.000 processes and how contaminant classes respond in the entire -- environment 1288 01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:10.000 and water. Research gaps. I should have included more on PFAS. Not just PFAS 1289 01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:19.000 grading micros. 1290 01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:24.000 What is their toxicity to fish, wildlife and toxicity applications for humans. 1291 01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:29.000 The USGS is going to have a 1292 01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:32.000 science strategy on an approach for dealing with PFAS that will be coming out 1293 01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:38.000 within the next few 1294 01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:42.000 weeks. Machine learning. Artificial intelligence. Improved conceptual site 1295 01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:49.000 models integrating field data 1296 01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:55.000 and expertise. Sampling analytical methodologies and better predictive models of 1297 01:41:55.000 --> 01:42:00.000 plausible impacts given a range of future climate conditions on the 1298 01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:06.000 site remediated. 1299 01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:10.000 That's a quick overview of the USGS. Thank you. 1300 01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:16.000 >> Final panelist 1301 01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:23.000 is William SU K. He's the director of the Superfund research program and 1302 01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:53.000 the hazardous 1303 01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:04.000 -->> We can't hearyou. 1304 01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:06.000 >> I am in New Mexico and on vacation. Inc. you for this invitation toparticipate with these panelists. It's beenan interesting discussion 1305 01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:10.000 thus far. The Superfund research program has been a part 1306 01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:20.000 of the FRTR steering committee for about six 1307 01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:28.000 years. Henry has been the lead for this and has 1308 01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:36.000 given us an opportunity because this floor has given us challenges and 1309 01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:39.000 opportunities to remediate these hazardous substances. That we appreciate the 1310 01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:43.000 opportunity to be part of 1311 01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:51.000 this Roundtable. 1312 01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:57.000 I can't see them. 1313 01:43:57.000 --> 01:44:03.000 >> They are up. The Superfund research program was created under the 1314 01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:09.000 Superfund amendment reauthorization act which called for 1315 01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:18.000 hazardous substance in basic reach and training program. It is housed and has 1316 01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:21.000 been housed in the Institute of and IH since that time. The SRP is a 1317 01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:24.000 multi-interplay necessary research 1318 01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:30.000 training program that addresses 1319 01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:35.000 health effects, assessing risk, detection of mediation 1320 01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:40.000 of substances. They are in front of you here but 1321 01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:43.000 to emphasize one thing with regard to university based basic 1322 01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:52.000 research program that was established some time ago. 1323 01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:58.000 The intent was to get academic researchers to address each of the four mandates 1324 01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:00.000 in one way or another. 1325 01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:03.000 Advanced 1326 01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:09.000 techniques, assess an evaluation of human health effects of hazardous 1327 01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:14.000 substances. Method to assess the risk to human health presented by hazardous 1328 01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:19.000 substances. Methods and technologies to detect hazardous substances in the 1329 01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:22.000 environment. Basic biological, chemical and physical methods to reduce the 1330 01:45:22.000 --> 01:45:26.000 amount and toxicity of 1331 01:45:26.000 --> 01:45:33.000 hazardous substances. Nowhere in our legislation does it mention anything about 1332 01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:39.000 hazardous waste. It gives us a broader mandate because it uses the word 1333 01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:43.000 hazardous substances. It directs us not to be a site-specific program. It 1334 01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:47.000 doesn't mean people don't work on sites and people don't do things in regard to 1335 01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:52.000 those sites but we are not a 1336 01:45:52.000 --> 01:45:58.000 site-specific program. 1337 01:45:58.000 --> 01:46:02.000 The mission is to provide 1338 01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:13.000 practical science-based solutions to protect 1339 01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:16.000 human health. Building on our mandates the mission as mentioned is to provide 1340 01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:19.000 practical science-based solutions to protect 1341 01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:27.000 human health and aims to understand and reduce exposures to potentially harmful 1342 01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:34.000 contaminants and health. We are part of and IH. The program is peer-reviewed 1343 01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:38.000 competitively awarded grants program. Uses the peer review 1344 01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:46.000 system which is a 1345 01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:51.000 tough system. It has been central to the rise of American science. It encourages 1346 01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:57.000 support excellent scientist and draws some of the nations best minds to focus 1347 01:46:57.000 --> 01:47:03.000 on complex problems. In this case relevant to reducing 1348 01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:08.000 hazardous substances. The SRP's 1349 01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:14.000 2020 strategic land was released last summer. It emphasized the importance of a 1350 01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:17.000 systems approach. To bring together 1351 01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:23.000 diverse disciplines, 1352 01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:27.000 health researchers, engineers, biologists, ecologists, scientists, data experts 1353 01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:32.000 and social scientists. The SRP 1354 01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:36.000 believes inviting multiple perspectives to the table to understand the system 1355 01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:42.000 in which the problem exists is the best way to find 1356 01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:55.000 multi-sectional solutions. A few 1357 01:47:55.000 --> 01:48:00.000 days ago -- we do a series with our colleagues at EPA using their CLU-IN system. 1358 01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:05.000 The intent of data science is to be able to look at different data platforms 1359 01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:10.000 and look at the inter probability platforms you can answer questions that cannot 1360 01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:13.000 be answered by one research 1361 01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:17.000 area alone. As part of 1362 01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:27.000 and IH, we are working with 1363 01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:32.000 all partners. As well as communities living inside impacted by hazardous 1364 01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:37.000 substances as well as tribal nations and U.S. agencies. 1365 01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:44.000 Program is better able to give solutions to 1366 01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:47.000 these problems. The SRP has several 1367 01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:54.000 funding mechanisms. You 1368 01:48:54.000 --> 01:49:01.000 see here a picture of the United States with the different 1369 01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:06.000 research awards that we've made over time. The cornerstone of the SRP is a 1370 01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:10.000 multiproject center. They are designed for 1371 01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:14.000 integration across disciplines and include projects from different disciplines 1372 01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:18.000 focus on addressing common problems 1373 01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:22.000 that are the theme of that center 1374 01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:26.000 were centers. These centers 1375 01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:32.000 are on excellent resource for groups like the FRTR. They are at the front light 1376 01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:37.000 of toxicology research which is the basis for the remediation decision. They are 1377 01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:43.000 developing novel, sustainable tech allergies 1378 01:49:43.000 --> 01:49:49.000 to remediate sites and in many cases are working along 1379 01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:54.000 federal agencies in need of novel approaches. In addition these centers include 1380 01:49:54.000 --> 01:49:58.000 Coors, expertise and research 1381 01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:04.000 translation and community engagements which are required within 1382 01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:09.000 each center. We are working through hundreds of communities throughout the 1383 01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:14.000 nation. We have other mechanisms we've provided support for. Our individual 1384 01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:19.000 research program focuses and has 1385 01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:23.000 been focusing on remediation technologies. We have a unique mandate as I pointed 1386 01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:30.000 out the mandate. The fourth mandate is the 1387 01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:38.000 only mandate that requires us to support research and remediation and that kind 1388 01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:43.000 of research. It is unique to NIH. No other organization supports that research 1389 01:50:43.000 --> 01:50:53.000 we have are a one 1 program dedicated 1390 01:50:53.000 --> 01:50:55.000 to it. We have SBIR program and also occupational training that 1391 01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:59.000 supports 1392 01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:08.000 emergency -- 1393 01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:15.000 emergent technologies. The network of research and Tiffany's and SLT brings 1394 01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:22.000 much to the table for the FRTR working groups and 1395 01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:28.000 its agencies. That's an important comment 1396 01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:34.000 to me. In our 35 years of our research program with conduct work at hundreds of 1397 01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:39.000 hazardous waste site. Produced thousands of peer-reviewed publications and 1398 01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:45.000 patents. Which supported cross disciplinary training of environmental 1399 01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:49.000 health professionals. Many of whom are working in the FRTR 1400 01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:57.000 member agencies. The basic 1401 01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:00.000 research refined has more than 100 million in cost savings from innovative 1402 01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:07.000 remediation technologies. Despite 1403 01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:11.000 the challenge in progress that's been made, there are issues that are getting 1404 01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:16.000 more attention that have to be addressed. 1405 01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:19.000 Environmental justice and environmental health disparities. A topic that is 1406 01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:23.000 high-priority for all of NIH. Fight 1407 01:52:23.000 --> 01:52:29.000 the change including 1408 01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:32.000 presents of robustness of remediation strategies. Multiple 1409 01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:35.000 stressors. 1410 01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:42.000 A.k.a. Mr. 1411 01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:47.000 -- mixtures. Emerging contaminants. There's been discussion about PFAS as an 1412 01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:52.000 example and the need to be proactive about identifying them and doing something 1413 01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:57.000 about them before they become a problem. 1414 01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:11.000 Data sharing. 1415 01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:19.000 This program is trying to bring 1416 01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:23.000 those broad sharing opportunities forward because this is the research 1417 01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:26.000 we support. It remains 1418 01:53:26.000 --> 01:53:30.000 a challenge 1419 01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:33.000 overcoming the Valley of death 1420 01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:37.000 for new, 1421 01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:41.000 promising technologies. These are challenges we need to look at and do something 1422 01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:49.000 about. Hopefully the strategic 1423 01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:58.000 planning activity of these working groups will 1424 01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:03.000 help that. With all that, I want to thank you for your attention. We've provided 1425 01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:10.000 you a variety of links to learn more about our program. I encourage you to check 1426 01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:13.000 out the website to learn more about our program and 1427 01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:18.000 upcoming events. We do a 1428 01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:22.000 science digest, research briefs are very good. The 1429 01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:27.000 risk e-learning is something we've been doing for a number of years and has 1430 01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:33.000 always been well attended. We have different subject areas. 1431 01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:36.000 We have a listing of who we find and see if there's any collaborations 1432 01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:41.000 and that. 1433 01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:50.000 I mentioned 1434 01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:59.000 the risk e-learning. We had when the other day. The next one is on 1435 01:54:59.000 --> 01:55:07.000 June 3rd. It's enhancing integration, 1436 01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:14.000 interoperability and reuse of data. There's a lot going on. There are areas we 1437 01:55:14.000 --> 01:55:20.000 can help. We are part of NIH and we 1438 01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:26.000 are fundamental in the research we support. We have to figure out ways and come 1439 01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:28.000 up with creative ways in order to move these technologies into the field in a 1440 01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:32.000 more deliberate way. 1441 01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:35.000 With that, I want to 1442 01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:38.000 thank 1443 01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:41.000 you. 1444 01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:46.000 >> Thank you to all the panelists. Let's go 1445 01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:50.000 back to Jean. 1463 01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:57.000 can have an open dialogue among our panelists. I will 1464 01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:00.000 close down our meeting chat as well. I will remind our attendees to use that to 1465 01:56:00.000 --> 01:56:06.000 an eight window to submit any 1466 01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:09.000 questions or comments. I will hide the slides and turn it over to you Greg to 1467 01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:15.000 get things started. 1468 01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:19.000 >> Thank you for everyone coming back. We were 1469 01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:25.000 over 300 people and still at 250. 1470 01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:29.000 We are having some time for questions. We will get to 1471 01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:36.000 those now. First question and I will 1472 01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:39.000 ask that Kent Glover from the Air Force helps us out. Recent advances and 1473 01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:42.000 high-resolution 1474 01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:47.000 site characterization -- my computer 1475 01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:55.000 is glitching. 1476 01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:58.000 Recent advances in technologies and methods are providing new insights for Sam 1477 01:56:58.000 --> 01:57:02.000 says that 1478 01:57:02.000 --> 01:57:12.000 complex sites. 1479 01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:19.000 HRST technologies are without cost particularly if there's a large 1480 01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:24.000 source area. Within your agency how are technologies being accepted 1481 01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:28.000 and used. How does your agency balance the cost of benefits of high rise at the 1482 01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:31.000 skills of 1483 01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:33.000 remediation 1484 01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:42.000 systems. 1485 01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:45.000 >> A few thoughts. The first thought is that for the past 10 years or so the Air 1486 01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:50.000 Force has been heavily invested in 1487 01:57:50.000 --> 01:57:53.000 performance-based contracting. We rely on contractors a lot to do the work and 1488 01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:56.000 how we set up those objectives in 1489 01:57:56.000 --> 01:58:03.000 the contracts becomes 1490 01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:08.000 really important. In the course of these performance-based contracts over the 1491 01:58:08.000 --> 01:58:14.000 last decade, we've done as a number of agencies 1492 01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:20.000 have done remedy evaluations of performance and effectiveness and that kind of 1493 01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:24.000 thing. Study after study we've learned a lot of things but the number one thing 1494 01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:27.000 we always learn 1495 01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:35.000 is efforts -- 1496 01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:42.000 the performances oftentimes hindered by a lack of specificity and detail in the 1497 01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:46.000 conceptual site model at the scale of the remedy. As opposed to the scale of 1498 01:58:46.000 --> 01:58:55.000 the 1499 01:58:55.000 --> 01:58:59.000 site. Oftentimes they give shortchange to 1500 01:58:59.000 --> 01:59:04.000 keep processes, controls uncontaminated 1501 01:59:04.000 --> 01:59:08.000 back patient 1502 01:59:08.000 --> 01:59:11.000 -- [Indiscernible]. That's where the high resolution characterization tools and 1503 01:59:11.000 --> 01:59:15.000 methods 1504 01:59:15.000 --> 01:59:20.000 are useful. It's in trying to refine those 1505 01:59:20.000 --> 01:59:26.000 site models. I think 1506 01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:31.000 that's a clear tool to a number of agencies. Recently what 1507 01:59:31.000 --> 01:59:34.000 we've done in our contracting approach which is one way of rolling out hybrids 1508 01:59:34.000 --> 01:59:37.000 work is for those 1509 01:59:37.000 --> 01:59:42.000 complex sites where remedies 1510 01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:47.000 have stalled and there's a clear need to improve the conceptual site model, we 1511 01:59:47.000 --> 01:59:50.000 focused the performance objectives of the contract specifically on improving 1512 01:59:50.000 --> 01:59:53.000 those 1513 01:59:53.000 --> 02:00:00.000 CM 1514 02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:03.000 -- CSM's. That involves contractor putting together work plans and what have 1515 02:00:03.000 --> 02:00:12.000 you. The intent is 1516 02:00:12.000 --> 02:00:19.000 to implement for a substantial number of sites that are expensive and 1517 02:00:19.000 --> 02:00:25.000 long term that forces our contracting -- it aligns our contracting to improve 1518 02:00:25.000 --> 02:00:30.000 our CSMs through high-resolution techniques. That's one thought. The other thing 1519 02:00:30.000 --> 02:00:36.000 we've done through our 1520 02:00:36.000 --> 02:00:40.000 BAA demonstration, validation projects. It's a small but 1521 02:00:40.000 --> 02:00:45.000 meaningful effort. We have funded a few 1522 02:00:45.000 --> 02:00:49.000 projects specifically to implement high-resolution technologies in an effort to 1523 02:00:49.000 --> 02:00:54.000 improve objectives for 1524 02:00:54.000 --> 02:00:57.000 those larger longer term contracts and more importantly one project in 1525 02:00:57.000 --> 02:01:06.000 particular where 1526 02:01:06.000 --> 02:01:09.000 we ask Smith who recently finished the work and they came up with eight nice 1527 02:01:09.000 --> 02:01:16.000 guidance manual of tools 1528 02:01:16.000 --> 02:01:20.000 and methods and and ask Fred -- Excel spreadsheet to 1529 02:01:20.000 --> 02:01:27.000 help people in planning 1530 02:01:27.000 --> 02:01:32.000 and selecting high-resolution tools and methods. You still -- you just can't use 1531 02:01:32.000 --> 02:01:37.000 that spreadsheet lightly. You have to know the site 1532 02:01:37.000 --> 02:01:42.000 and use to evaluate the information and so forth. That project in particular is 1533 02:01:42.000 --> 02:01:45.000 a key project for us as we roll it out now 1534 02:01:45.000 --> 02:01:50.000 through training. Internally 1535 02:01:50.000 --> 02:01:53.000 right now -- it was scheduled for 1536 02:01:53.000 --> 02:01:59.000 a 1537 02:01:59.000 --> 02:02:03.000 training session. We are starting to roll that guidance and 1538 02:02:03.000 --> 02:02:06.000 methodology 1539 02:02:06.000 --> 02:02:15.000 out to our contractors and consulting firms that we work with through a variety 1540 02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:18.000 of venues. The second half of the question is how do we balance costs and if it? 1541 02:02:18.000 --> 02:02:23.000 That is 1542 02:02:23.000 --> 02:02:29.000 a challenge. Is continuing to be a challenge and something we hope to learn 1543 02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:33.000 better how to do from the other member agencies of this roundtable. I 1544 02:02:33.000 --> 02:02:39.000 don't think we have a good way to quantify cost 1545 02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:44.000 versus benefit of the 1546 02:02:44.000 --> 02:02:51.000 high-resolution technologies. 1547 02:02:51.000 --> 02:02:59.000 Case studies would go a long way in helping us understand what high-resolution 1548 02:02:59.000 --> 02:03:03.000 approaches prove most effective in what type of sites. And following those 1549 02:03:03.000 --> 02:03:08.000 efforts through into subsequent 1550 02:03:08.000 --> 02:03:12.000 remedy efforts. 1551 02:03:12.000 --> 02:03:14.000 That's a few thoughts. Maybe someone else on the panel has additional ideas or 1552 02:03:14.000 --> 02:03:17.000 thoughts. 1553 02:03:17.000 --> 02:03:24.000 >> Let's see if there's 1554 02:03:24.000 --> 02:03:30.000 additional thoughts. That such a great 1555 02:03:30.000 --> 02:03:35.000 topic. The FRTR has a lot of rich content and experience bringing 1556 02:03:35.000 --> 02:03:40.000 high-resolution to the table . We look forward to more of that in the future. 1557 02:03:40.000 --> 02:03:44.000 Given over 40 years of cleanup work, are there any efforts within the federal 1558 02:03:44.000 --> 02:03:47.000 agencies to do data mining to assess how quickly we can achieve restoration 1559 02:03:47.000 --> 02:03:52.000 groundwater depending on site characteristics and 1560 02:03:52.000 --> 02:03:57.000 technologies applied. That was an audience question. On a related note I would 1561 02:03:57.000 --> 02:04:02.000 ask panelist if they have 1562 02:04:02.000 --> 02:04:07.000 any thoughts in that realm or another related to the role of artificial 1563 02:04:07.000 --> 02:04:09.000 intelligence and machine learning to the remediation 1564 02:04:09.000 --> 02:04:12.000 practice. 1565 02:04:12.000 --> 02:04:19.000 >> What people may not 1566 02:04:19.000 --> 02:04:23.000 realize is in the department of energy is using AI and 1567 02:04:23.000 --> 02:04:31.000 machine learning and some of the climate change modeling that is going on within 1568 02:04:31.000 --> 02:04:39.000 the department at the national laboratories. That data that was used to develop 1569 02:04:39.000 --> 02:04:45.000 subsurface kind of components of those climate change models was data that was 1570 02:04:45.000 --> 02:04:50.000 generated from our well of care study 1571 02:04:50.000 --> 02:04:58.000 sites overtime. One of the things they are looking at is 1572 02:04:58.000 --> 02:05:01.000 how stable the ice sheets be in the and Arctic over the next 40 years. Water 1573 02:05:01.000 --> 02:05:05.000 cycles, precipitation, rainfall 1574 02:05:05.000 --> 02:05:09.000 patterns, drought. That sounds like climate change and what we want to look at 1575 02:05:09.000 --> 02:05:17.000 in regard to the 1576 02:05:17.000 --> 02:05:26.000 resiliency of our remediation solutions. I think what we need to get in and I 1577 02:05:26.000 --> 02:05:32.000 think this is a good forum to show there is some comment needs across all of the 1578 02:05:32.000 --> 02:05:37.000 programs in the country with regard to tackling these kinds of questions and 1579 02:05:37.000 --> 02:05:39.000 situations with regard to using AI and machine learning for these kinds of 1580 02:05:39.000 --> 02:05:44.000 activities and make it a 1581 02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:49.000 contact sport with the science folks that are tackling some of these things so 1582 02:05:49.000 --> 02:05:56.000 we can leverage the advances they are making with regard to climate change 1583 02:05:56.000 --> 02:06:02.000 modeling to say, we want to look at it as discussed before on a watershed basis. 1584 02:06:02.000 --> 02:06:05.000 Maybe do some pilots for that so we can make better decisions going into the 1585 02:06:05.000 --> 02:06:08.000 future with regard to some of 1586 02:06:08.000 --> 02:06:11.000 these remedies. There could be 1587 02:06:11.000 --> 02:06:17.000 an area that 1588 02:06:17.000 --> 02:06:20.000 the roundtable 1589 02:06:20.000 --> 02:06:23.000 could champion and look into the art of the possibilities going into the 1590 02:06:23.000 --> 02:06:31.000 future. The work is going on. Another 1591 02:06:31.000 --> 02:06:34.000 example of a parallel way artificial intelligence and machine learning is being 1592 02:06:34.000 --> 02:06:41.000 used to 1593 02:06:41.000 --> 02:06:46.000 drive cars. And how you get cars to run. If you start to 1594 02:06:46.000 --> 02:06:52.000 think about our remediation technologies and 1595 02:06:52.000 --> 02:06:56.000 using eight slew of them on particular problems maybe we 1596 02:06:56.000 --> 02:07:03.000 can leverage the investments that are being made in these other areas with 1597 02:07:03.000 --> 02:07:08.000 regard to the structural code and the structure of creating these 1598 02:07:08.000 --> 02:07:13.000 decision-making kinds of efforts. Maybe we can leverage that in our remediation 1599 02:07:13.000 --> 02:07:18.000 world as we go forward and leverage those investments 1600 02:07:18.000 --> 02:07:21.000 for something we as a collective group see as a long-term need for the country. 1601 02:07:21.000 --> 02:07:24.000 Just something to 1602 02:07:24.000 --> 02:07:27.000 think about. 1603 02:07:27.000 --> 02:07:30.000 >> Thank you, Mark. Any other thoughts on 1604 02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:35.000 data mining, AI, machine learning from the 1605 02:07:35.000 --> 02:07:42.000 other panelist? 1606 02:07:42.000 --> 02:07:48.000 >> I will quickly mention many of us have large databases. 1607 02:07:48.000 --> 02:07:55.000 Historical data so the opportunity to mine 1608 02:07:55.000 --> 02:08:01.000 data is there. The challenge is once you plot up 1609 02:08:01.000 --> 02:08:04.000 those trends, the challenge is understanding what that means in terms of how it 1610 02:08:04.000 --> 02:08:08.000 relates to what we've done at 1611 02:08:08.000 --> 02:08:17.000 the site. What little we 1612 02:08:17.000 --> 02:08:22.000 have done it's confusing. It's not always immediately clear why 1613 02:08:22.000 --> 02:08:28.000 a long-term result 1614 02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:31.000 in cleanup or don't. Some sites we've found it to be useful indicator of time to 1615 02:08:31.000 --> 02:08:37.000 clean up for sites that 1616 02:08:37.000 --> 02:08:40.000 are controlled with back to fusion or the kind of thing. Other sites it 1617 02:08:40.000 --> 02:08:44.000 gets complicated because the remedy itself 1618 02:08:44.000 --> 02:08:50.000 keeps changing. There isn't a long-term consistency in 1619 02:08:50.000 --> 02:08:55.000 the remedy or a steady trend of optimization of a particular remedy. There's a 1620 02:08:55.000 --> 02:09:02.000 lot of data. There certainly opportunity. 1621 02:09:02.000 --> 02:09:07.000 >> Thank you. Let's move on to another question. As time permits there's an 1622 02:09:07.000 --> 02:09:37.000 opportunity for other panelist to weigh in on this one. This comes from the FRTR 1623 02:09:48.000 --> 02:09:48.000 leadership survey. The challengeidentify training. We continue to lose decades of expertise out the doorto retirements. How is your agency taking on this challenge? How can the FRTR 1624 02:09:48.000 --> 02:09:49.000 support your work in thisarea.>> When I joined the program I appreciated leaders like 1625 02:09:49.000 --> 02:09:53.000 Greg and Dan who wasn't able to join us today and seeing the 1626 02:09:53.000 --> 02:09:59.000 importance of not only development and technologies but also the transfer of 1627 02:09:59.000 --> 02:10:05.000 that information. We've had a major emphasis within us in terms of 1628 02:10:05.000 --> 02:10:09.000 the training. We continue to look at that. We've done things like legacy 1629 02:10:09.000 --> 02:10:13.000 learning as people have walked out and we videotape them talking about 1630 02:10:13.000 --> 02:10:20.000 and it's problematic things but also technologies. 1631 02:10:20.000 --> 02:10:23.000 We continue to invest a lot of time and effort and resources in CLU-IN. We are 1632 02:10:23.000 --> 02:10:30.000 continuing [Indiscernible] and 1633 02:10:30.000 --> 02:10:36.000 its virtual. We've been doing it 1634 02:10:36.000 --> 02:10:43.000 virtually and wanting to do one in person. We've already done work on virtual 1635 02:10:43.000 --> 02:10:49.000 training but we are getting better at it to the last year with 1636 02:10:49.000 --> 02:10:53.000 the pandemic. We also continue to find other ways to make sure 1637 02:10:53.000 --> 02:10:57.000 our RPMs know what's going on. Our technologies are not useful unless the people 1638 02:10:57.000 --> 02:11:02.000 that need them have access to 1639 02:11:02.000 --> 02:11:06.000 them. We emphasize trying to get information out 1640 02:11:06.000 --> 02:11:09.000 to our RPMs more 1641 02:11:09.000 --> 02:11:14.000 effectively. Our 1642 02:11:14.000 --> 02:11:21.000 tech hub is having the desktop ability 1643 02:11:21.000 --> 02:11:24.000 for our RPMs to know what's out there. Put out technology fact sheets. These 1644 02:11:24.000 --> 02:11:28.000 are 1645 02:11:28.000 --> 02:11:32.000 things that may not appear to be as innovative but combining 1646 02:11:32.000 --> 02:11:38.000 activated carbon with other amendments in 1647 02:11:38.000 --> 02:11:42.000 certain situations. And putting that together and getting that out through our 1648 02:11:42.000 --> 02:11:45.000 fact sheets and various outreach. These are things we are doing and we look 1649 02:11:45.000 --> 02:11:48.000 forward working with the FRTR 1650 02:11:48.000 --> 02:11:51.000 sister agencies on anyways to 1651 02:11:51.000 --> 02:11:55.000 combine 1652 02:11:55.000 --> 02:12:00.000 efforts. 1653 02:12:00.000 --> 02:12:03.000 >> What are thoughts you have on 1654 02:12:03.000 --> 02:12:06.000 this? 1655 02:12:06.000 --> 02:12:10.000 >> Not only do I manage the 1656 02:12:10.000 --> 02:12:15.000 business side I'm also the chief our community of practice which is over 4000 1657 02:12:15.000 --> 02:12:21.000 of our mental professionals. That's 10 % of our workforce who has a role to play 1658 02:12:21.000 --> 02:12:25.000 in environmental work. We have a robust program 1659 02:12:25.000 --> 02:12:28.000 with our program which is not just environmental work. It's all our engineer 1660 02:12:28.000 --> 02:12:32.000 and construction scientist in 1661 02:12:32.000 --> 02:12:39.000 the Army. We have career maps that are deliberate from the time you graduate 1662 02:12:39.000 --> 02:12:42.000 from college until you reach my level and if you look how I went around I 1663 02:12:42.000 --> 02:12:46.000 followed the career maps very closely. We've been able to leverage the last 14 1664 02:12:46.000 --> 02:12:52.000 months to take the robust training programs for our turnkey 1665 02:12:52.000 --> 02:12:58.000 cleanup programs and take those trainings online. 1666 02:12:58.000 --> 02:13:03.000 Most of our cleanup folks are working multiple programs. We are able 1667 02:13:03.000 --> 02:13:09.000 to leverage different programs and trainings we 1668 02:13:09.000 --> 02:13:14.000 do and train our professionals from the time we bring them on all the way 1669 02:13:14.000 --> 02:13:19.000 through to this level. That's one of the good things that has come out of COVID. 1670 02:13:19.000 --> 02:13:23.000 We brought people on 1671 02:13:23.000 --> 02:13:27.000 details virtually and they can see all the different levels of policy. It's 1672 02:13:27.000 --> 02:13:31.000 forced us in a good way to work 1673 02:13:31.000 --> 02:13:35.000 across generations in our workforce and do that legacy planning. 1674 02:13:35.000 --> 02:13:42.000 >> Thank you. 1675 02:13:42.000 --> 02:13:44.000 We are about at the end of our time. Any other panelist have remarks related 1676 02:13:44.000 --> 02:13:51.000 to this? 1677 02:13:51.000 --> 02:14:00.000 >> One thing I will point out. This is an opportunity to bring in the next 1678 02:14:00.000 --> 02:14:06.000 generation of workers in. We are trying to increase and stress 1679 02:14:06.000 --> 02:14:14.000 our programs with minority serving institutions. We have connections across the 1680 02:14:14.000 --> 02:14:21.000 country where we are bringing in the students to do research, students to do 1681 02:14:21.000 --> 02:14:26.000 internships, students to work from these institutions that are cleanup sites and 1682 02:14:26.000 --> 02:14:34.000 at our national laboratories. It is an opportunity 1683 02:14:34.000 --> 02:14:37.000 to have our workforce of the future look more like the rest of 1684 02:14:37.000 --> 02:14:40.000 the country. 1685 02:14:40.000 --> 02:14:42.000 >> Thank you. 1686 02:14:42.000 --> 02:14:48.000 >> One 1687 02:14:48.000 --> 02:14:53.000 other point. Would look at managing 1688 02:14:53.000 --> 02:15:02.000 a program, 1689 02:15:02.000 --> 02:15:11.000 we've been able to have that formalized training and with that into a virtual 1690 02:15:11.000 --> 02:15:19.000 environment this past year. To add to that, having more ad 1691 02:15:19.000 --> 02:15:25.000 hoc resources, some of the avenues and venues I talked about earlier including 1692 02:15:25.000 --> 02:15:31.000 our [Indiscernible], there's importance in extending those opportunities beyond 1693 02:15:31.000 --> 02:15:34.000 just Navy personnel and having that available to our stakeholders and partners 1694 02:15:34.000 --> 02:15:38.000 as well. This idea of having 1695 02:15:38.000 --> 02:15:46.000 a collaborative effort and we are on the same page in respect 1696 02:15:46.000 --> 02:15:49.000 to capabilities, technologies, it all helps us move forward. 1697 02:15:49.000 --> 02:16:00.000 >> Perfect. As a 1698 02:16:00.000 --> 02:16:03.000 chief side dish scientist you have anything to say about stem Mac talent in this 1699 02:16:03.000 --> 02:16:10.000 arena? 1700 02:16:10.000 --> 02:16:17.000 >> One thing we've been pleased to see is the administration support for this 1701 02:16:17.000 --> 02:16:21.000 climate conversation core. We love to see a climate 1702 02:16:21.000 --> 02:16:25.000 science core and you can broaden it 1703 02:16:25.000 --> 02:16:33.000 to include a lot of aspects that would bring inside remediation and things like 1704 02:16:33.000 --> 02:16:39.000 that under current climate conditions. What can we do to help rebuild the 1705 02:16:39.000 --> 02:16:46.000 workforce and also so the previous person 1706 02:16:46.000 --> 02:16:50.000 said more reflects the diversity of the population but also create the next 1707 02:16:50.000 --> 02:16:58.000 generation of climate scientists from remediation scientist 1708 02:16:58.000 --> 02:17:03.000 and engineers that will not only help us rebuild expertise we lost due to 1709 02:17:03.000 --> 02:17:09.000 retirements and things like that but also how can we bring in the people with 1710 02:17:09.000 --> 02:17:17.000 the expertise that have advanced computing, 1711 02:17:17.000 --> 02:17:24.000 advanced modeling where we need to be addressing the substantial 1712 02:17:24.000 --> 02:17:28.000 challenges facing not only from the climate's perspective remediation and many 1713 02:17:28.000 --> 02:17:31.000 other areas that require an integrated science 1714 02:17:31.000 --> 02:17:35.000 approach. 1715 02:17:35.000 --> 02:17:41.000 >> Your agency occupies a unique and 1716 02:17:41.000 --> 02:17:47.000 important space. Wanted to make sure you had an opportunity to weigh in. 1717 02:17:47.000 --> 02:17:52.000 >> One thing we are doing. We are doing some of the same things that's already 1718 02:17:52.000 --> 02:17:55.000 been mentioned. One thing that hasn't been mentioned, we have an active 1719 02:17:55.000 --> 02:17:59.000 knowledge 1720 02:17:59.000 --> 02:18:01.000 management program. We have a full-time person responsible for running 1721 02:18:01.000 --> 02:18:04.000 that program. We have 1722 02:18:04.000 --> 02:18:08.000 a Wikipedia 1723 02:18:08.000 --> 02:18:16.000 which we use pretty actively where we put 1724 02:18:16.000 --> 02:18:22.000 in articles and give people opportunity to put in different types of 1725 02:18:22.000 --> 02:18:25.000 information. That's one thing that I wanted to bring up. 1726 02:18:25.000 --> 02:18:30.000 >> Thank 1727 02:18:30.000 --> 02:18:34.000 you. We've gone past our time so I will think the panelists for such a great 1728 02:18:34.000 --> 02:18:41.000 afternoon. I will turn it over to Heather and Henry to close us out with a 1729 02:18:41.000 --> 02:18:43.000 summary as well as set us up for session 2 for next 1730 02:18:43.000 --> 02:18:46.000 week. 1731 02:18:46.000 --> 02:18:50.000 >> I want to thank our panelists for taking the time to present your points of 1732 02:18:50.000 --> 02:18:57.000 view today about the remediation challenges. Very engaged discussion and 1733 02:18:57.000 --> 02:19:01.000 excellent questions. Any questions that came up that we were able to answer we 1734 02:19:01.000 --> 02:19:08.000 will follow up at a later date. We appreciate 1735 02:19:08.000 --> 02:19:14.000 your patience. This has been mentioned before but we are interested in your 1736 02:19:14.000 --> 02:19:19.000 thoughts so meeting the audience participants. We had two questions that we post 1737 02:19:19.000 --> 02:19:23.000 today. If you go onto the 1738 02:19:23.000 --> 02:19:29.000 next slide, it's a sneak peek to what we are talking about next week. We welcome 1739 02:19:29.000 --> 02:19:40.000 your responses to the other three questions on 1740 02:19:40.000 --> 02:19:44.000 the survey. Advancing new technologies. What are the barriers, what are the 1741 02:19:44.000 --> 02:19:52.000 incentives, any promising technologies. Initiatives and coordination that you 1742 02:19:52.000 --> 02:19:56.000 are aware of or resources and such that would be helpful for FRTR as we ordinate 1743 02:19:56.000 --> 02:20:00.000 our activities. Also future 1744 02:20:00.000 --> 02:20:04.000 vision for FRTR. We've been getting great questions and comments along these 1745 02:20:04.000 --> 02:20:06.000 lines through the Q&A. I hope to see that continue to come in. Because we are 1746 02:20:06.000 --> 02:20:11.000 using the input we get 1747 02:20:11.000 --> 02:20:15.000 for developing 1748 02:20:15.000 --> 02:20:18.000 next directions, we ask you can send responses by May 31st to give us a chance 1749 02:20:18.000 --> 02:20:24.000 to incorporate that. The FRTR 1750 02:20:24.000 --> 02:20:29.000 website is the address on the screen. This will be posted on the webinar page. 1751 02:20:29.000 --> 02:20:36.000 The questions and email address will be there for 1752 02:20:36.000 --> 02:20:40.000 your reference. Next week is part 1753 02:20:40.000 --> 02:20:43.000 2 of grand challenges and opportunities for advancing remediation technologies 1754 02:20:43.000 --> 02:20:49.000 where will be featuring the remediation 1755 02:20:49.000 --> 02:20:53.000 research program part of some of the same member agencies you heard 1756 02:20:53.000 --> 02:21:00.000 from today. That is next week. Same time 1757 02:21:00.000 --> 02:21:03.000 1:00 p.m. until 3:30 p.m. I encourage you to register. There are still 1758 02:21:03.000 --> 02:21:06.000 slots open. Thank 1759 02:21:06.000 --> 02:21:12.000 you. 1760 02:21:12.000 --> 02:21:16.000 >> Thank you Heather. We are if you moments past our time. 1761 02:21:16.000 --> 02:21:20.000 To meet walk through some reminders. Some of our speakers highlighted the 1762 02:21:20.000 --> 02:21:26.000 cleanup information that was on the CLU-IN 1763 02:21:26.000 --> 02:21:32.000 website. You can visit us on the website to 1764 02:21:32.000 --> 02:21:38.000 learn more. I sent out our free monthly 1765 02:21:38.000 --> 02:21:41.000 news letter on the first of each month so visit us there unsubscribes you can 1766 02:21:41.000 --> 02:21:48.000 get delivery to your inbox when webinars like today's session 1767 02:21:48.000 --> 02:21:51.000 are available. 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Do we offered CEUs or PDH is and while I'm sad to say 1777 02:22:36.000 --> 02:22:40.000 can't issue those credit hours I can provide with a participation certificate if 1778 02:22:40.000 --> 02:22:45.000 you fill out the feedback form. When you visit the seminar homepage, look for 1779 02:22:45.000 --> 02:22:52.000 that feedback form tab and I will email 1780 02:22:52.000 --> 02:22:56.000 that out. I put it in the meeting chat earlier. You need to check a box at the 1781 02:22:56.000 --> 02:23:00.000 bottom of the form certify you were here for the whole thing be played the 1782 02:23:00.000 --> 02:23:04.000 entire archive in order for a certificate to be generated. Fill that form out 1783 02:23:04.000 --> 02:23:08.000 completely, check the box at the bottom and when you 1784 02:23:08.000 --> 02:23:14.000 submitted you will have your certificate. I want to echo 1785 02:23:14.000 --> 02:23:18.000 the session overnighters and panelists for their thanks for each of you for 1786 02:23:18.000 --> 02:23:21.000 joining us. We had over 300 attendees for today's live broadcast and I hope you 1787 02:23:21.000 --> 02:23:29.000 will all come back 1788 02:23:29.000 --> 02:23:32.000 next week. With that, I will wrap things up. Will formally concludes today's 1789 02:23:32.000 --> 02:23:36.000 live podcast. Thank you for 1790 02:23:36.000 --> 02:23:40.000 joining us.